Shard/Crystal Ceiling Price

[Xakery]

Most just use freaking bots to gather the shards anyways so I'm for it. I mainly get my shards from retainer gathering anyways. I gather shards from time to time but only if I must. Clusters are a given. Shards and crystals in beastmen vendor would make so much sense anyways. When the beast tribes first came out they gave a good chunk of shards as part of the reward for dailies...

[xPeAcEx]

Don't worry once 3.0 rolls around all base mats like silver ore and mythril ore or at least the ingots will be npc items. There may or may not be a shard breaker class but i doubt they will ever make shards/crystals come from npc. However with the increase of retainer level, you will be able to obtain more ^^

[Shadygrove]

.... AFAIK, as far as mining goes, only Copper, Tin, and Zinc Ore sell from NPC vendors. Every other ore is purely controlled by the market board, with a soft ceiling as far up as mythril due to ingots being sold from Amal'jaa....

Iron ore and ingots are sold by the vendors in the housing wards.

[HakuroDK]

Iron ore and ingots are sold by the vendors in the housing wards.

I didn't know about that, but there is a lot more that doesn't sell from NPCs. Mythril Ore, anything Cobalt and Electrum, anything Darksteel and Spruce, any HQ raw materials in general, etc.

There are still plenty of other things that could be focused on. Shards and Crystals should not be. Clusters are acceptable, but a line should be drawn when it comes to shards and crystals.

[Xakery]

Do you have the FFXIV Libra app? That can help you locate npc vendors and stuff a tad faster

[HakuroDK]

Do you have the FFXIV Libra app? That can help you locate npc vendors and stuff a tad faster

I use XIVDB, which is a smidge more detailed than Libra.

Anyway, this is the stuff I see all the time when I need to get more shards.



That's all the same retainer, which I assume belongs to the same person, who may well be an RMT. Most of the retainer's name is blocked out, the first couple letters are not to show that it is, in fact, the exact same retainer for all of them.

This is why we need a Shard/Crystal ceiling price, especially if it can happen through the Beast Tribes. If that happens, then RMTs will be forced to price themselves below the ceiling to sell, causing them to have to work a hell of a lot longer and harder to sell, increasing the risk of getting banned by GMs.

[Syrellaris]

Hey folks!

So... interesting idea. Have a merchant or merchants sell shards and crystals for a flat rate. Could be tied into the Beast Tribes (Amal'jaa sell Fire, Sylphs sell Lightning, Kobolds sell Earth, Sahagin sell Water, Ixali sell Wind, and an NPC in Coerthas could sell Ice.

This would help crafters in two ways:

1.) It would make shards and crystals much more accessible by being purchased in whatever quantities they wish.

2.) It would cause shard/crystal prices on the market boards to plummet down to around the price range they are sold for by the beast tribes. That way, RMT wouldn't be able to take nearly as much advantage of the shard/crystal market as they do now.

So basically you want to eliminate the miner class from the game as you will be taking a big chunk of there profits away.

[Xakery]

So basically you want to eliminate the miner class from the game as you will be taking a big chunk of there profits away.

It only seems profitable if you run a bot. Not sure how you could spend hours upon hours mining shards when there are so many others things that can be gathered / do in game. and it's "their profits". :<

[HakuroDK]

So basically you want to eliminate the miner class from the game as you will be taking a big chunk of there profits away.

As someone whose primary crafting classes rely on mining, which I do myself, especially as it pertains to Darksteel Ore, that's not what I'm saying at all. I mean, unless you run a mining bot to auto-mine for you while you're AFK, in which case you're part of the problem.

You want to turn a profit? Mine Cobalt. Mine Electrum. Mine Elemental Clusters. Mine HQ Copper/Tin/Zinc/Iron/Bomb Ash/Mythril Ore. Mine Carbonized Matter. Mine Raw Gemstones.

Miners have so very many options that turn a hell of a lot more of a profit than shards and crystals ever would, and only people who use mining bots would ever consider shards/crystals to be more lucrative, since they can stack up to 9999 rather than the regular 99.

I'm speaking as someone who is a miner, blacksmith, armorsmith, and culinarian. I mine my own Darksteel Ore. I mine my own Umbral Rocks. When I absolutely have to, I mine my own shards and crystals. Have you seen the price of HQ Electrum and Cobalt? It's pretty damn impressive, especially compared to the prices of shards and crystals (on a per unit basis).

[Gardes]

Gatherers actually use shards to make money? I thought its all RMT. I rarely buy them since i only craft for fc and sometimes we just pool the shards to me for the food and xpots.