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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Thanks all for the tips.
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    Kaya Solimar
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    How much is the SCH supposed to DPS? We just started t13 this week, and i feel like i'm burning through way more mana than i should as WHM, i'm sure efficiency will come with more practice but i dunno, i feel like i'm doing everything sometimes with aoe healing and keeping the MT up. Going into Phase 2 i'm usually at or below 3k MP. Then if the tank dies because i'm trying to save mana I get blamed.
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    My group is now consistently getting to DB so I thought I'd post some things that have helped us. Adlo all flare breaths. Seems obvious, but they're it is. Can dps as scholar during megaflare casts and after flatten/breaths. I will dps during if tank has Sentinel up. Let whm handle all aoe heals and focus on MT. During P2 I heal the OT when add is up but switch to help with the MT as much as possible. Sometimes this leaves the OT at half health or lower but the MT healer needs a lot of support. Regen is your friend.


    There's other things but I think the other posts covered things very thoroughly so I won't reiterate. Thanks for the continued feedback to this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetiteMalFleur View Post
    Adlo all flare breaths.
    Bit of an MP waste, WHM+Pet should be able to handle it all. For Flattens in first phase, Pre/Post-Adlo the Flatten, then have Rouse'd Pet heal with WHM.

    During P2 I heal the OT when add is up but switch to help with the MT as much as possible.
    Should have WHM heal OT on P2 and close to essentially solo heal the phase. On P1 transition/during mega flare, WHM can Divine Seal Medica2 -> Regen both tanks, which'll keep MT up w/ Selene heals until after OT's add is dead, where WHM can then focus on MT. Add's dmg output on OT is pretty laughable after it does that initial spike damage, so the WHM can help up MT as the flame breath hits.

    It basically lets the SCH squeeze as much DPS on the main boss when Flattens aren't occurring, so you don't hit the Enrage 14 minutes in.
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisenhower View Post
    Does anyone have any animation tells or similar things that helped them time heals in the fight?
    As you mentioned, the flare stars are quite useful in phase 2, you'll get a single breath ~4 seconds after the first set of flare stars appear (Start casting your heal about half a second after the tether's vanish) and you'll get the flatten > breath combo coming about 2 seconds after the second set of flare stars appears (Start casting your stoneskin on the MT when you see the flare stars).

    Quote Originally Posted by Eisenhower View Post
    Were you ever assigned to healing MT in P2 and if so, what made you switch? Any insights from healing the OT?
    Yep, although I mainly healed the MT as SCH. We did it this way for a few reasons:

    First up, initially the SCH isn't going to be getting much benefit from the fairy as she is going to be mostly healing the raid initially living the SCH ill prepared to deal with the initial burst damage from the add, by comparison Bahamut is a pussycat at first with a long cast to channel and only a single breath. Secondly and more significantly, the add will dead or very close to so by the time the second set of flare stars appear, this means the WHM can safely stoneskin the MT for the incoming flatten > Breath whilst the SCH continues healing to ensure they are topped as well. As soon as the flatten is over and the MT doesn't look like they are in danger of dropping dead, the SCH is free to DPS away with impunity till Megaflare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    Bit of an MP waste, WHM+Pet should be able to handle it all. For Flattens in first phase, Pre/Post-Adlo the Flatten, then have Rouse'd Pet heal with WHM.
    We've gotten really unlucky with tank drops so all both our tanks have are poetic gear. The flare breath takes 2/3 health of our MT and he dies from the following autoattack so I have to help out with the flare breaths. If he had a few hundred more HP I would not need to. I still manage to keep all my dots up P1. I dps after the flattens in P2.

    Crossing my fingers for fending gear tonight. Our dps are well geared so at least there's that.
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    my static was getting to phase 3. im the groups sch. i was mainting 150+ dps for those phases. I think i peaked at 180 on one of the pulls. theres plent of time to DoT up Bahamut inbetween spike damage.

    For example. DoT at pull. After the first flatten goes out, there is enough time for you to dot up Bahamutl in between flatten and earthshaker. After earthshaker is done, lay down soil (for megaflare) then switch to cleric to refresh dots while megaflare cast and animation are going on. Megaflare happens then flame breath with the upcoming flatten. After 2nd flatten u can again DoT Bahamut before he does earthshaker. Rinse and Repeat for first phase.

    IDK where your group tanks Baha, but for mine the first add spawns right on top of him. I always refreshed DoTs during Gigaflare cast i can hit Miasma II and bane DoT onto add as soon as it spawns. I actually dont DoT the subsequent adds as my groups dps is too fast and my DoT wont tick for their full duration. Instead i DoT up bahamut right after Rage of Bahamut cast to keep pushing the phase. After the flatten goes out on phase 2 u should be able to again DoT up bahamut before he cast megaflare.

    phase 3 isnt to hard to figure out where to dps. Just Dot and Bane to help burn down adds.

    Thats all the help i can give as i dont have too much phase 4 exp
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