Art for Gil: Against TOS?

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I don't think it's going to be an issue since you are not getting real life money involved and aren't screwing with the economy.

[Fornix]

Directly from the ToS:

2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items. You may not play the Game for the purpose of acquiring virtual items or advancement in game play on behalf of a third-party or for the purpose of selling any virtual assets to a third party for real-world money, specifically including "gold-farming" and power-leveling services.

source: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

Of interest is the following snippet:

You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world ... value any in-game currency ... .

Value in this context implies monetary worth. Art has value, and as such the trade between art and gil would conflict with the ToS. So in essence by selling your art, you're purchasing gil. And the person purchasing the art, is merely selling gil.

[Nel_Celestine]

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Wish people would use this logic with things like 3rd Party tools (parsers etc) instead of saying "grey area don't ask don't tell" when it's in the ToS that they are against it. Two way street. Both are grey area or neither are.

[BreathlessTao]

Directly from the ToS:

2.2 Real Money Trading, Farming and Power-Leveling. You may not sell, purchase or exchange for real-world money or value any in-game currency, accounts, characters, in-game services, or in-game virtual items.

source: http://support.na.square-enix.com/ru...2&tag=users_en

COUGHcashshopCOUGH
I mean so cute that it's their own TOS. But of course it's ok because it's them selling it......~

[vred13v]

COUGHcashshopCOUGH
I mean so cute that it's their own TOS. But of course it's ok because it's them selling it......~

it clearly says "you" may not, not "we" may not
the wording excludes themselves from the rule

[Phe]

If it's not against ToS, every other RL service could be offered for Gil as well?

Wait, wasn't there this girl in FFXI who....? O.o

[Kiara1]

Hmm I wonder...
If somone makes a bet with someone when they're drunk, can they pay him/her with gil instead of real money or is it againt ToS?
Asking for a friend...

[BreathlessTao]

Guys, all things said though... SE can't read minds. If you don't advertise it in shouts and don't talk about it in mails or on here, I doubt they could fathom why the gil is being sent. Helping out a friend / a random person, simply because you're nice - plausible deniability, imo.

[Lyrinn]

The reason that rule even exists is to prevent third parties from profiting off of SE's (or really any online) game. An artist is not making real money off of selling art for gil.

[Edeline]

It's against the ToS because there is no control of that comission on the RL part. People could use comissions as an excuse for real money instead of art, for gil in game, and that's where SE has no control over it, hence labeling it RMT (even if it's not) just to avoid having to deal with the posibilities. You could always do it privatedly (as not making forum threads for comissions or advertising around).