What I would refer to as our third generation FC raiders are about to down t5, I help out running it with them frequently, and I'm excited for them to have that achievement and to have some more company in SCoB. But as for PUGing, T6 and 7 are pretty much always a clear in DF for me; I went through with my WHM and farmed via DF. Turn 8 is what I was working on and it seemed that either people would mess up ballistics (most of the time) or we'd reach a point where AF was up along with mines causing a wipe, and someone would ragequit. I do see learning as well as clear parties in PF, but other than one learning one that I had started (and enjoyed the group) I've never been a part of one. There are also learning LSs, one of which is coil focused and I'm particularly fond of for player attitudes. I am able to invite.