[dev1021]SP in non-leve parties

[Gulkeeva]

Well people partied at the beginning because of few things...

1. At the time there was no such thing as "leve linking"
2. SP had no cap (fixed by thm/cnj groups spamming cures on themselves in mass parties)
3. People felt.. ffxiv was ffxiv-2 and exp groups was the thing so they made groups.
4. There was no SP penalty really for having 15man group killing stuff.

The SP/exp from leve's and behest was low, because you can't link it, and everyone got basically the same 200-300ish SP per kill no matter how many had that same leve.

Best was to get a group and sit and kill 300-500SP mobs for countless hours.

The day leve's SP was boosted by leve link (think somewhere in november around the static SP changes) leve groups became "the thing" to do because you can link it, and slowly behest with that because its right there.



SE has a few choices though to change this issue...

1. Reduce leve link SP (will really make people angry currently playing)
2. Boost SP from normal mobs (makes everyone happy), probably not as happy as 1000 SP per kill with GA Dunes folk for dinner leve
3. Change GA to where, instead of a temp buff for a leve boosting SP, its changed to an 2 hour? Exp buff for normal monsters. (goes away if you start a leve/behest)
Or maybe like every 10 GA points = 1 hour, max of 4 hours.

[AlexiaKidd]

If they change GA to be used outside of leves it is better if it is made for a set amount of SP boost 10k or something, that way everyone will be able to use it fully. Like if something comes up and you have to leave when you come back it will still be active for whatever you have left of the 10k SP boost. This also stops parties who can kill really quick from having too much of an advantage over a time based system.

[Iron]

Well people partied at the beginning because of few things...

1. At the time there was no such thing as "leve linking"
2. SP had no cap (fixed by thm/cnj groups spamming cures on themselves in mass parties)
3. People felt.. ffxiv was ffxiv-2 and exp groups was the thing so they made groups.
4. There was no SP penalty really for having 15man group killing stuff.

The SP/exp from leve's and behest was low, because you can't link it, and everyone got basically the same 200-300ish SP per kill no matter how many had that same leve.

Best was to get a group and sit and kill 300-500SP mobs for countless hours.

The day leve's SP was boosted by leve link (think somewhere in november around the static SP changes) leve groups became "the thing" to do because you can link it, and slowly behest with that because its right there.



SE has a few choices though to change this issue...

1. Reduce leve link SP (will really make people angry currently playing)
2. Boost SP from normal mobs (makes everyone happy), probably not as happy as 1000 SP per kill with GA Dunes folk for dinner leve
3. Change GA to where, instead of a temp buff for a leve boosting SP, its changed to an 2 hour? Exp buff for normal monsters. (goes away if you start a leve/behest)
Or maybe like every 10 GA points = 1 hour, max of 4 hours.

I don't really mind a nerf of leve linking SP IF they at the same time boost SP from normal mobs. This would make it more balanced.. People would have an alternative way of SPing and not feel FORCED to do guildleves for ranking up.

I've always thought guildleves were boring anyway. Instead of giving us 8 repetitive and boring leves to do, they could give us less leves, but make them more challenging and interesting.. Quality over Quantity!! Well that's another topic.

[Alegis]

I would prefer SP-parties too.
But they have to get a better party-search/member-search in first.

[Acydcross]

I would prefer SP-parties too.
But they have to get a better party-search/member-search in first.

^ this please and thank you.

[Dreamer]

SE has a few choices though to change this issue...

1. Reduce leve link SP (will really make people angry currently playing)
2. Boost SP from normal mobs (makes everyone happy), probably not as happy as 1000 SP per kill with GA Dunes folk for dinner leve
3. Change GA to where, instead of a temp buff for a leve boosting SP, its changed to an 2 hour? Exp buff for normal monsters. (goes away if you start a leve/behest)
Or maybe like every 10 GA points = 1 hour, max of 4 hours.

Or

4. Increase the mob count and timer for three-star and greater leves (double the timer to one hour, triple the number of mobs spawned), and give us the option to auto-repeat a leve from the spawned aetherial node on quest completion. It would still be limited to your normal allotment of leves per day, but you could do the same one eight times if you wished.

[Molly_Millions]

The day leve's SP was boosted by leve link (think somewhere in november around the static SP changes) leve groups became "the thing" to do because you can link it, and slowly behest with that because its right there.

Just commenting on this, leve linking and the bost in SP has been in the game since beta, not November. The adjustment to SP in nov was to the party bonus, which inadvertently affected leve SP.

[Rentahamster]

Just commenting on this, leve linking and the bost in SP has been in the game since beta, not November. The adjustment to SP in nov was to the party bonus, which inadvertently affected leve SP.

Actually, there was no SP boost during beta and for the first 2 months of retail. That was when the game forced you to link, and you didn't have an option.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ddd138d5ab599e

Leve linking players will now receive experience and skill point bonuses.

If there is room for interpretation, you haven't explained yourself adequately.

That's just you. Everyone else understood perfectly fine.

But I did finally get the answer out of you, so that's a success for me at least.

Or, you could have read my first 3 posts and saved us all lots of time.

[Nephera]

That's just you. Everyone else understood perfectly fine.

Its true!

:3c