[dev1021]SP in non-leve parties

[Iron]

Can you please find a way to encourage traditional partying more?

At the start of the game, we had relatively more "normal" parties for SPing, on efts, raptors ,etc. Not saying that there are none now, but with Battle Guildleves providing more SP, as well as behests being somewhat more appealing than before, there has been a lack of SP groups..

Please find the right balance between the 2 (Now I'm not saying to nerf SP from leves, just improve SP in regular groups) so that regular parties are encouraged more..

[Visch]

I think the major problems are:

1) You don't loss sp when you die.

2) Leves create no real need to party for causal people.


It's kind of sad really.

[chopchop]

I definitely would like to see more SP/XP parties going on..

[viion]

I miss parties. These should be the primary way to level. Even people party when doing guildleves but then you are out of luck when they're gone.

[Overkill9000]

i feel leves were intended to make quick parties. like you could show up at a camp and find ppl doing leves too, but it's turned into more effort to find a party (without any search functions) and it is less beneficial. i usually just do behest :P

[viion]

i feel leves were intended to make quick parties. like you could show up at a camp and find ppl doing leves too, but it's turned into more effort to find a party (without any search functions) and it is less beneficial. i usually just do behest :P

And unless you have the leves they have (failed leves) you aint getting anywhere XD

[AlexiaKidd]

The problems with grinding is for most ranks it is not efficient at the minute. SP/EXP per hour is slow, mobs are spread out to far with long respawn times and Efts and Raptors are pretty much the only things worthwhile doing.

If the lowered respawn times so you didn't need to run all over Eorzea to find the next mob, gave us variety and places to find the perfect mobs for every rank I think this would go a long way to solving some of the problems.

Also a SP/EXP bonus item wouldn't go a miss like the Empress Band to work similar to GA but outside of leves.

[Alise]

Leve should give more SP, because you can't do it endlessly like normal grinding. However, some more SP for normal party would be cool.

[AlexiaKidd]

My target for SP Grind parties is 20k an hour I think that is reasonable so from R49-R50 should take around 5 hours of continuous grind.

I also see leves as more for the casual people who don't have much time, but with how it is now the difference in the amount of SP you can get from leve per hour compared to what you can get grinding per hour (there are exceptions) is huge. With leve's I can easily do 6 leves and get 60-80k SP depending on how much GA I have within an hour and a half.

[Gulkeeva]

Well people partied at the beginning because of few things...

1. At the time there was no such thing as "leve linking"
2. SP had no cap (fixed by thm/cnj groups spamming cures on themselves in mass parties)
3. People felt.. ffxiv was ffxiv-2 and exp groups was the thing so they made groups.
4. There was no SP penalty really for having 15man group killing stuff.

The SP/exp from leve's and behest was low, because you can't link it, and everyone got basically the same 200-300ish SP per kill no matter how many had that same leve.

Best was to get a group and sit and kill 300-500SP mobs for countless hours.

The day leve's SP was boosted by leve link (think somewhere in november around the static SP changes) leve groups became "the thing" to do because you can link it, and slowly behest with that because its right there.



SE has a few choices though to change this issue...

1. Reduce leve link SP (will really make people angry currently playing)
2. Boost SP from normal mobs (makes everyone happy), probably not as happy as 1000 SP per kill with GA Dunes folk for dinner leve
3. Change GA to where, instead of a temp buff for a leve boosting SP, its changed to an 2 hour? Exp buff for normal monsters. (goes away if you start a leve/behest)
Or maybe like every 10 GA points = 1 hour, max of 4 hours.