RMT + Cash Shop = Not as bad as one might believe?

[Hiruke]

Honestly, I'm not really sure why people are flipping out about people being able to sell promise wristlets for gil. If anything, the people who didn't want to pay actual money should be excited by the opportunity to just pay for it with gil, right?

Personally, I don't think $40 or whatever is even close to worth it, but a few million gil? You might have something there.

Would the world really be so awful if EVERYTHING in the cash shop was able to be sold for gil? I mean, the reality is that RMT already exists. People are already out there buying gil. I think that's stupid, but that doesn't mean people aren't going for it. Is the game hideously broken now? Because the same people who buy gil now would be the same people subsidizing all your cash shop purchases. Probably more people would do it, but uh, so?

Unless you're looking for world firsts, you don't have any strong NEED for much of anything you buy with gil (and if you're elite enough for that and doing stuff like getting full materia'd i110 crafted as soon as it comes out, and actually going for it, you're such a ridiculously small percentage as to not even be worth discussing in terms of broad demographics), so the economy isn't really a deal breaker. If it was, this game would be pretty awful already, RMT or not. Because the way the economy is set up is pretty awful.

Making all cash shop purchases sellable would be pretty much an unadulterated win for SE, as cash shop purchases would undoubtedly increase.

If you've got some compelling arguments on why RMT would actually be really bad in this case, and I mean beyond "omg it's bad", that'd certainly be pretty interesting. Certainly, if you're anti-Cash Shop RMT but pro-Cash Shop, I'd be really perplexed.

If anything, everything being sellable for gil would make me hate the Cash Shop less because then anything I did want, I could just pay some gil for. As opposed to them someday putting an outfit or hairstyle on there I really want and me quitting because I'm not giving them real money for it. We're already skating super close to that with putting dyes up there for a hilarious $1 apiece. Thanks, SE! You found a way to annoy me even more than with the other dyes you can only get via TOTALLY RANDOM retainer ventures and that CAN'T BE TRADED WOOO!

[Verlyn]

Thank you for posting this.

[MomomiMomi]

Honestly, I'm not really sure why people are flipping out about people being able to sell promise wristlets for gil. If anything, the people who didn't want to pay actual money should be excited by the opportunity to just pay for it with gil, right?

I was, and did. I'd really rather we not have a cash shop, but since we do, and it's not going anywhere, I'd much prefer that all items in it can be sold to other players.

[ShinigamiZero]

When you got someone that's in your coil group who shouldn't be there because he sold all those items for gil and bought all his wins... then ends up in your group and holds you back.. lets see what you have to think after that.

[Verlyn]

When you got someone that's in your coil group who shouldn't be there because he sold all those items for gil and bought all his wins... then ends up in your group and holds you back.. lets see what you have to think after that.

Make a static if you're serious about progression.

[ShinigamiZero]

Make a static if you're serious about progression.

Not everyone has that option. Not as easy as you describe it to get 8 people together at a specific time in the day. Even if you make a static you can still end up with someone who doesn't have a base in skills because he/she bought all their wins. So you get them and have to replace them..you get another and same thing happens again. Unlikely you say but still possible.

[Verlyn]

Not everyone has that option. Not as easy as you describe it to get 8 people together at a specific time in the day. Even if you make a static you can still end up with someone who doesn't have a base in skills because he/she bought all their wins. So you get them and have to replace them..you get another and same thing happens again. Unlikely you say but still possible.

These are just excuses. If you're serious about progression, you'll make the time. Otherwise, your choice in who you run with is going to be limited. You'll have to deal with people who bought their wins with or without the advent of this wristlet.

[Nalien]

You'll have to deal with people who bought their wins with or without the advent of this wristlet.

So it is OK for the issue to be exacerbated? Pretty pathetic logic there...

[ShinigamiZero]

These are just excuses. If you're serious about progression, you'll make the time. Otherwise, your choice in who you run with is going to be limited. You'll have to deal with people who bought their wins with or without the advent of this wristlet.

Wrong they are not excuses. Not everyone has all the free time in the world like you seem to have. I've had my own static before, and clearly you seem to not have run your own. Replacing people is harder than you imply mainly because of time differences. Just because you seem to have no life doesn't mean everyone else doesn't.

[Kuolema]

When you got someone that's in your coil group who shouldn't be there because he sold all those items for gil and bought all his wins... then ends up in your group and holds you back.. lets see what you have to think after that.

You could say the same thing about people that farm for poetics for the poetic gear. People have been able to purchase gil from RMT's for a good while now and it really hasn't hurt the game that much, but the second that SE come up with a way to do the same thing everyone seems up in arms about it. Honestly I would rather support SE than some random RMT website that does who knows what with my money.