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    Optimal BRD rotation?

    I have a fresh 50 BRD thats been sitting for quite a while (lets put it this way - I still have myth gear on him). I took him into Labyrinth and ST for the first time (dozens of times on WHM, so I'm not new to CT) and found it's pretty damn fun in 8-24 raids - playing songs when I see it (Ballad for WHMs/SMN on mid MP or after a raise, Foes for BLMs in the group, Swiftsong for the running between) and so on. So I'd like to play it a bit more.

    But I don't know - as I main WHM - if theres a particular rotation I should be doing in the meantime.
    So, I'm asking, ss this a viable rotation? Or is there something in particular I'm missing/don't know?

    For Raids/Trials, I've been scrubbing together generally this:

    At pull start:
    - Internal Release
    - Raging Strikes
    - Flame Arrow
    - Windbite
    - Bloodletter
    - Venomous Bite
    - Heavy Shot
    - Straight Shot
    - Repeat Heavy and Straight
    - Repelling Shot when it's off CD (but I'm a bit forgetful about it)

    This is with weaving in Blood Letter if and when it pops up, between CD and when it resets itself + refreshing DoTs and Rain of Death if in with those trash mobs between bosses in CT. I've RoD'd bosses for the debuff but I don't think it's particular debuff (lowers evasion) is helpful when most are geared these days.

    My reasoning for Raging and Internal at start is getting the DoT/flaming arrow blathering out damage from the start, and still using Hawk's Eye as a backup damage buff (unless I'm misinterpretting the skill descrip?) to keep some damage high while IR and Raging are on CD. I tend to re-use Internal in between (faster cooldown).

    ....After IR and RS goes down, then:
    - Hawk's Eye
    - Barrage (for the in-between auto attack hits)
    - Re-apply DoTs when needed under Hawk's Eye
    - Rinse and repeat Heavy and Straight shot
    - Rinse and repeat weaving in Blood letter

    Repeat rotation(s).

    At enemy 20% HP (not mentioning DoTs/buffs as it's dependent on timing):
    Quickly consecutively:
    - Heavy shot
    - Misery's End
    - Straight Shot
    - Blood Letter
    - Heavy shot

    In dungeons I've used generally the same rotation on mobs/bosses, but additional Rain of Death in mobs and Quelling strikes if I see my threat meter getting high (being WHM main, my eyeballs tend to habitually drift to the party list).
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    Last edited by Saseal; 12-13-2014 at 04:28 AM.

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    My current rotation is (changes pretty often)
    Raging > Straight Shot (you want this up before your first dots) > Blood for blood (Bloodletter) > Wind Bite (Internal (Hawkseye)) > Venom (Barrage) > Heavy (flaming arrow) > Heavy (Blunt Arrow) > IR should be at 5-4 seconds now so i Wind bite (repealing) > Venom > and SS should be on 1 second or literally just falling off so > Straight shot >

    after all this generally speaking youll have 5 gcds till you need to reapply your dots, so thats 4 heavys and 1 straight inbetween (obviously this is subjective depending on procs)
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    ^ hes gotta better grasp on things
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    Copypasta'd this from another thread I posted this opener in:

    Windbite (Bloodletter) > Venomous Bite (Hawk's Eye + Blunt Arrow*) > Straight Shot (Blood for Blood, Raging Strikes) > Heavy Shot (Internal Release + Barrage) > filler (Flaming Arrow + Repelling Shot**) > filler until DoT reapplication

    Filler is basically Heavy Shot and Straighter Shot procs. If you get a Bloodletter reset during the opener, weave it in and pick up from where you left off. Blunt Arrow and Repelling Shot are optional due to animation locks, along with whether or not you are on silencing duties for the former, and whether or not you're in a safe position to use the latter. Most importantly, this rotation allows you to reapply your DoTs with all the buffs up without having to clip them too early. Oh, and if you're using a HQ X-Potion of Dexterity, use it after Internal Release and before Barrage in the opener.

    If you have any more questions about this opener, do not hesitate to ask.
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    Awesome, thanks for the infos, guys! xD Didn't realize to do Straight Shot before the DoTs, also.
    Thanks, again!
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    Making sure that your Straight Shot buff is up before reapplying DoTs is pretty handy. For an opener, I highly recommend using the one I've posted. With my current raid setup, I usually average around 500+ using that opener.

    After the opener, keeping Straight Shot up for DoT reapplication boosts the chances of getting those Bloodletter resets. If you're lucky enough, you'll get two resets between GCDs which is, for lack of a more subtle word, orgasmic.

    Good luck, Saseal! May your arrows fly true!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyRoyale View Post
    Making sure that your Straight Shot buff is up before reapplying DoTs is pretty handy. For an opener, I highly recommend using the one I've posted. With my current raid setup, I usually average around 500+ using that opener.

    After the opener, keeping Straight Shot up for DoT reapplication boosts the chances of getting those Bloodletter resets. If you're lucky enough, you'll get two resets between GCDs which is, for lack of a more subtle word, orgasmic.

    Good luck, Saseal! May your arrows fly true!
    Why would you open with both your DoTs not fully buffed?


    Given your gear you should be able to burst 700+ with X-pot or 600+ without. Having your DoTs fully buffed especially with IR is extremely important in your opener. If you are lucky with your IR buffed DoTs and they crit often (and thus your BL procs), you could even sustain 500+ into 2 mins of the fight before starting to drop to 480ish zone and slowly normalize.

    EDIT: BTW 510 acc is under accuracy from T11 onwards if not wrong. T13 you need 535 which means you need to switch food to Lava Toad Legs (I didn't really bother about acc per turn because right from the start, with full crafted I am already way over 535 accuracy).
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    Last edited by Ooshima; 12-15-2014 at 03:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlyRoyale View Post
    Making sure that your Straight Shot buff is up before reapplying DoTs is pretty handy. For an opener, I highly recommend using the one I've posted. With my current raid setup, I usually average around 500+ using that opener.

    After the opener, keeping Straight Shot up for DoT reapplication boosts the chances of getting those Bloodletter resets. If you're lucky enough, you'll get two resets between GCDs which is, for lack of a more subtle word, orgasmic.

    Good luck, Saseal! May your arrows fly true!
    500+ DPS on opener isn't too good, though. I assume that number is in a party (a.k.a fully buffed). Also, I don't see why you wouldn't use potions on that opener, it's a really big part of your damage on opener.
    Just an advice, read the link Krietor posted. I do over 800+ openings unbuffed, and usually do much more with Disembowel/Trick Attack/PT Buff/Food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkin View Post
    500+ DPS on opener isn't too good, though. I assume that number is in a party (a.k.a fully buffed). Also, I don't see why you wouldn't use potions on that opener, it's a really big part of your damage on opener.
    Just an advice, read the link Krietor posted. I do over 800+ openings unbuffed, and usually do much more with Disembowel/Trick Attack/PT Buff/Food.
    Depends on how many seconds have passed. Usually we want to see how long the burst can be sustained. If we are referring to first 10-15s / peak DPS number as shown in ACT, BRDs right now can hit 1000 mark (with the right conditions).
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