RNG is Back with ZODIAC Relic

[HumsterMKX]

ATMA 6/12

Can't feel anymore pain.

[XgungraveX]

jack Daniels help numb the pain.

[Ashkendor]

What do you mean RNG is back? It never left town in the first place.

I think I have a whopping 2 of the drops so far. It doesn't really bother me. I won't kill my own sanity by grinding dungeons non stop, especially since I hate a few of the ones we have to run. Me and 2-3 friends have an agreement to all run together and occasionally swap roles to keep things from getting too monotonous. With that said, we're doing other things too, and not just exclusively farming the relic crap. Again, I refuse to kill my own sanity. People that choose to flat-out grind it and then complain about how boring/hard/time consuming it is don't really get much sympathy from me because there's other options.

[CYoung187]

The relic quest time gates behind RNG? Who came up with this revolutionary idea?

RNG will be part of this quest, don't see why this shocks anyone. I would much rather have this then atma or even Nexus. Nexus is flat out painful, hell you can't even switch up classes to make it feel less grindy.

[Tiggy]

There were people done with this quest yesterday. This is one of the fastest stages even with rng, and the rng is nowhere as bad as the atma stage. This isn't a big deal at all.

[Rufalus]

I feel like the real life equivalent to this would be getting home from grocery shopping and having a 90% of your groceries disintegrating as you step through the door, forcing you to spam trips to the grocery store potentially for days until you luck out and get to keep the food. I am having awful luck with this quest but other people have completed their zodiac weapons.

[Tiggy]

I feel like the real life equivalent to this would be getting home from grocery shopping and having a 90% of your groceries disintegrating as you step through the door, forcing you to spam trips to the grocery store potentially for days until you luck out and get to keep the food. I am having awful luck with this quest but other people have completed their zodiac weapons.

That's a poor analogy. It states that something is gained (groceries) and then lost when you get home. In reality you gain nothing from the dungeon until after you leave. So it would be more accurate to say you went shopping and looked at what you wanted but didn't grab it and just went home and then when you got home there was a chance the groceries materialized onto your counter from no where. You're not gaining something at the beginning of the dungeon that you then lose. You never had it to begin with.

[Synestra]

Well im clocking in approx 40 +/- DD runs atm, worst part in that is that i dont get anyhing out of that place, no tomes to help progress on another quests. So DD and AV are worst places to get stuck due lack of tomes, because those are the only non-lvl 50 dungeons in this stage.

[Hiruke]

SE, what happened?

I thought Atma was pretty telling with the amount of backlash players gave.

Now the RNG revolves around completing outdated dungeons and praying to RNJesus.

Reports of 20+ AV runs with no drop, etc.

Why did you decide to do this again?

I suspect two things:

1) Dev team may have a gambling problem, as they seem to grossly overvalue the "yay" moment of totally random chance finally falling in your favor. This is perhaps, somehow, the worst aspect of the game, and they seem determined to transform this into Pachinko Fantasy XIV. Luck is the only thing that matters, right? And time spent.

Getting lucky and grinding, THAT'S THE FUTURE OF MMOS!

2) Dev team assuredly believes we should go back to old content repeatedly, for everything, to carry everyone on our backs, now that they are finally getting to that content. They may be trying too hard in the wrong way to keep things relevant.

[Mercutial]

2) Dev team assuredly believes we should go back to old content repeatedly, for everything, to carry everyone on our backs, now that they are finally getting to that content. They may be trying too hard in the wrong way to keep things relevant.

Agreed. I remember tackling WP for the first time only to wipe time and time again to the SECOND boss. This, of course, was ages ago. I thought back on this while we were carrying a first-timer thru last night (three of us needed our dungeon ATMA). Twelve minute speedrun. Poor DRG never had a chance to see the scenery. And probably will never be back until he needs the Zodiac weapon. Bit of a shame really. Is this what SE really intended?