Sometimes I don't get this community.

[Nadirah]

Case in point: discussion just now.

Someone complaining about Aurum Vale and the ridiculous number of trash pulls. Someone advocates the sacrifice method, chain pull and die at the boss, res the tank and keep going. What?

Everyone likes to hate on wow players. That's something wow players would do if they could. Of course, you don't need to, because you *can* pull the entire dungeon into the first boss room and still have the tank alive. But seriously? Hate that type and then ... advocate doing stuff that makes them that way.

5 minute dungeons are that way. Sheesh.

[Elim]

I....I...Uh...what?

[Nadirah]

You heard me.

Best part was, that conversation happened not 15 minutes after the same guy was trash talking wow players and how bad they are for this community. ><

[Gamer3427]

Sounds like a bad group, or someone who doesn't hate on WoW players. I've personally never heard of this "sacrifice" method for that, and if people are complaining about trash pulls in a run, then they've probably joined via roulette. It seems like 90% of people who go into content through the roulette only care about speed running so they can get the bonus/tomestones/"need to do the roulette because I can", and as such will use whatever method available to skip through the dungeon. Sadly, those of us who play the content in the game to enjoy it are few and far between. I got the Ultros fight yesteday on my first attempt at the Trials Roulette, and after two wipes because some people were new/didn't remember the fight, everyone started leaving because they didn't want to put up with taking the time to do the content. It's one thing if you have very limited time to play, but I suspect most of these types of players just want to get done with everything as fast as they can so they can complain about not having anything to do.....

TL;DR A lot of people in this game are hypocrites, so stuff like this is bound to happen.....

[LunaHoshino]

Sac pulls are the way to go if you're just running it for your relic. Otherwise, why waste all of that EXP?

[LeeraSorlan]

Whats up with needless labels.
wow players? wow didnt start everything.


This isnt something wow players would do, its something an impatient player would do, regardless of the game.

[bounddreamer]

The first time I tried to run Aurum Vale that was exactly what the tank said we were doing. Tried it twice, died, quit, and we got a replacement tank who got us through the normal way, mob pack by mob pack.

[AkashiXI]

Sac pulls are the way to go if you're just running it for your relic. Otherwise, why waste all of that EXP?

If you're doing your leveling roulette, it's more exp efficient to sac pull everything and finish the dungeon, as anything past lv52~ish yields insufficient exp per mob. Then again, you shouldn't be using your leveling roulette past 52 if you're going for the most exp/hour ratio.

[Kanemano]

Hmm. In XI we'd have a THF do flee sac pulls in Dynamis all the time, so it's not just WoW. It's just another way of efficiency, granted not everyone could/should be doing it.

[Kosmos992k]

The first time I tried to run Aurum Vale that was exactly what the tank said we were doing. Tried it twice, died, quit, and we got a replacement tank who got us through the normal way, mob pack by mob pack.

It's quicker unless everyone is a uber-geared probro. Even though it's completely sync'd, a thoroughly overgeared player still outgears the dungeon decently.

To be honest though, it's pretty quick if everyone plays their role and sticks to the mechanics, it slows down when people try to hot dog by over pulling or dps facepulling something while the tank already has their hands full.

Actually running Arum Vale is almost an FFXIV IQ or ability test. A fully sync'd, smooth, successful run there shows a skillful party of players.