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  1. #111
    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    The one thing that I always think about is that this cash shop content would have possibly made it's way into the game and could have made some content have more lasting goals instead of the gear grind.

    New hairstyles? Why not buy them for Allied seals/Mythology/Poetics/Getting top tier with certain beast-tribes, achievment rewards (Tank hairstyle go!) They can still sell these things on the shop but give other people things to shoot for. I just don't get why we want them to lock this behind a paywall, optional is fine but forcing players to cough up for vanity items in a game we allready pay for with no alternatives is just a waste in my opinion (Maybe not to SE's wallet).
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    Long as we have the subscription, I'm never going to touch the cash shop.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Long as we have the subscription, I'm never going to touch the cash shop.
    As long as we have subscription, there shouldn't be a cash shop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    The one thing that I always think about is that this cash shop content would have possibly made it's way into the game
    As said - If this were the case it would have been introduced. Odin's horse for example, he been in the game for a year - He has his own loot trade system in the game for a year. It would have been added to Odin Mantles if they had any intention on introducing it before they made the cash shop.

    Where would the minions they sell come from? There's no more Scion quests as their storyline merged into Binding Coil after the main 2.0 and 2.1 scenario was done, as 2.2-2.4 rarely dealt with them but rather the company they setup.

    New hairstyles?
    Is 99% of the time added automatically to the CC and 1% of the time is quest related content, e.g Lightning/Snow's hairstyle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quesse View Post
    As long as we have subscription, there shouldn't be a cash shop.
    Read the terms. Also tell Blizzard this. Tell any company this as well:

    "Hey (company), players are willing to buy stuff from a cash shop..but don't do it! Don't make money because that's bad!"

    If players weren't willing to buy DLC, half finished games ("early access") and use a cash shop, it would have died out 7 years ago.

    Think about that.
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  6. #116
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    How much do you think it costs in $$$ to create a new dungeon? A new raid or trial? How about a new piece of gear? You need new art, models, sounds, code, play testing, and localization into four languages. All this put together is costly. And it's basically given to us free. Games today cost a lot to make. Several hundred million $$$ for an A-List game.

    I like to look at something like the cash shop as something that supports the development of the game, and the money spent on those items goes to content that everyone can use (dungeons, raids, gear, etc). To me, that's how things work. The idea that the cash shop hurts development is ridiculous IMO.
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    Last edited by Laraul; 12-19-2014 at 11:27 AM.

  7. #117
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laraul View Post
    How much do you think it costs in $$$ to create a new dungeon? A new raid or trial?
    A hell of alot less than our subscriptions pay. Never understood this situation where people think that without the suplimentary income from a cash shop, the game is doing well enough that they are making much more money than the operating costs of the servers and the team creating content.

    Unless they give us a breakdown of where the cash shop money is going (It's being invested into Square Enix's bottom line to offset other poorly preforming products, it's unlikely to say they keep the cash for sole use in XIV) The funds are not going directly into content development for the game. If it was then that's great! But it's not likely the story. If FFXIV was floundering financially they might be using the cash to suplement development costs but it's doing plenty well to not need to worry about that.
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    I just wish everything in the cash shop was sellable for gil so some other sucker could subsidize me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    A hell of alot less than our subscriptions pay. Never understood this situation where people think that without the suplimentary income from a cash shop, the game is doing well enough that they are making much more money than the operating costs of the servers and the team creating content.

    Unless they give us a breakdown of where the cash shop money is going (It's being invested into Square Enix's bottom line to offset other poorly preforming products, it's unlikely to say they keep the cash for sole use in XIV) The funds are not going directly into content development for the game. If it was then that's great! But it's not likely the story. If FFXIV was floundering financially they might be using the cash to suplement development costs but it's doing plenty well to not need to worry about that.
    Every single recently released SE game has dlc its how games work now they want supplemental income from them to make more money because they are a business.
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