Cash Shop: Stifling development.

[Adrian74]

With all respect, but I'm going to speak a little about your worries with the direction the cash shop is getting and so....

I know here a lot of people, (surprisingly) thinks this all is normal and we players should empty our wallets, but, uh, okay...

I just noticed something important aside the P2W(OR however you want to call the fact people can obtain advantages in-game thanks to their real money) and is the change of... Hm... Let's say, their way to develop?:

- Before we had it so crafters were useful only for vanity stuff. They were the ones in previous patches that took everything that was needed for making certain recipes etc and craft-sell the vanity stuff... From now on, since cash shop came, that function of the crafters have been almost vanquished, now vanity stuff is no more concerning crafting classes, at least not at all, now cash shop is...

So... What decided SE to do now that crafters were loosing their main function? Give them back more vanity stuff and remove it from cash shop? No, give them some utility in the new relic quest, because that was the only way to give crafters utility without damaging the integrity of the cash shop....

(Note, important note: This is only the point of view of a poor noob, only my perception, I'm not saying it is exactly like that. The lack of answers for developers is what make me do my own points of view until we obtain some official responses regarding this.)

[Nel_Celestine]

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umm... this was a QoL patch, not a major update. 2.40 was the major update and there was a lot of vanity items added for crafters to make and not a single one of them was removed nor were any vanity armours placed on the Mog Station.

Edit- Slightly different and dyable wedding dress / suit as part of the bonuses for paying extra for wedding. the Normal dress is still there only difference is dyable and a small amount of frills

[Ashkendor]

- Before we had it so crafters were useful only for vanity stuff. They were the ones in previous patches that took everything that was needed for making certain recipes etc and craft-sell the vanity stuff... From now on, since cash shop came, that function of the crafters have been almost vanquished, now vanity stuff is no more concerning crafting classes, at least not at all, now cash shop is...

So... What decided SE to do now that crafters were loosing their main function? Give them back more vanity stuff and remove it from cash shop? No, give them some utility in the new relic quest, because that was the only way to give crafters utility without damaging the integrity of the cash shop....

Uh... what? So because 3 dyes and some minions went into the cash shop, crafters are all of a sudden useless? I don't follow. Crafters certainly make a lot more than just vanity items, in any case. Good luck getting a relic without crafters. A lot of the higher level stuff that was just introduced is actually really good when it's overmelded as well. I don't see how anyone can possibly say that "the function of the crafters have almost been vanquished".

[Venos]

Umm no, I'd rather buy a full outfit for $5 from the CS, than bust my ass to make 12mil for a full outfit in game, because this community think it's fine to over price Level1 vanity gear. That's why all 3 wedding options are on the CS, including the free one. They knew players would over price these items if they were made by crafters. The way I see it, they dealt with a problem before it started.

[Jynx]

If you want to accuse me of hyperbole find something that actually states my shouting to the treetops doom and gloom. I'm simple stating my concern where you are sitting here dismissing anyone with a opinion different than your.

I respect the peoples opinion that are for the cash shop, I get it they would rather pay than work for certain content or truly believe that the developers actually need the money to make this content. It doesn't stop me from stating my opinion though.

[Nel_Celestine]

or truly believe that the developers actually need the money to make this content.

Because the development team, localization team, community team etc all work for FREE! Right? Right?

[Dyvid]

Because the development team, localization team, community team etc all work for FREE! Right? Right?

15/month x 2,000,000/subs x 12/months = 360,000,000 yearly. Yea, I think they are getting well paid for their work without a cash shop.

Umm no, I'd rather buy a full outfit for $5 from the CS, than bust my ass to make 12mil for a full outfit in game, because this community think it's fine to over price Level1 vanity gear. That's why all 3 wedding options are on the CS, including the free one. They knew players would over price these items if they were made by crafts. The way I see it, they dealt with a problem before it started.

These are the statements that annoy me the most. You have no idea how much of a time sink crafting is yet you want difficult items for nothing. Do you know how much it time and cost it takes to get mats for the night gown? If you don't like blame SE, not the crafters.

[Nel_Celestine]

15/month x 2,000,000/subs x 12/months = 360,000,000 yearly. Yea, I think they are getting well paid for their work without a cash shop.

that's gross, not net. Factor in the cost of other projects being developed by SE, building costs, power costs for servers, business taxes, international fund conversion, etc etc.

Is the company making money? Yes. But are they making 360 million net profit a year just from FFXIV? Not on your life. If extra funds from stuff on the mogstation goes to getting more talent for XIV and other SE titles and vise versa I have no issues with it.

[Dyvid]

that's gross, not net. Factor in the cost of other projects being developed by SE, building costs, power costs for servers, business taxes, international fund conversion, etc etc.

Is the company making money? Yes. But are they making 360 million net profit a year just from FFXIV? Not on your life. If extra funds from stuff on the mogstation goes to getting more talent for XIV and other SE titles and vise versa I have no issues with it.

Money is money no matter where its going or how it's spent. Any profit made by SE goes back to SE to be spent on whatever projects and programs they wish to develop. Your right that it's income vs expenditure but it is true that FFXIV has made SE profitable again for 2014. Also I'm not against the cash shop as a method to sell services or unique items that aren't related to a games feature. If SE wants to sell a Morbol mount for 15, they can go nuts. It's only when its premium access to game content where I draw the line.

[Venos]

I get it they would rather pay than work for certain content

Excues me, are we making assumptions now? Where did anyone say they wouldn't work for anything in game????? That is basically a passive, aggressive comment.