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    Leonus's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kenrir Amnis
    World
    Sargatanas
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90

    A question for the Melee and Bards

    I see this a lot, more now as a ninja than I did as a drg since I now have goad.

    Bard players (most) argue that they shouldn't have to play paeon, that all melee dps need to learn how to manage their tp. That the dps loss the melee suffer vs the damage loss of the brd and casters dps is not enough to warrant paeon.

    Melee dps argue that bottoming out on tp and leaving your melee dps to starve until invigorate comes back up is more of a dps loss for the raid group than playing paeon for a period of time to sustain them until their next invigorate usage.

    To be honest I'm more inclined to agree with the latter due to my past experiences in those situations. The brd in my static actually plays paeon to sustain the mnk and I due to the two of us being the highest dps (mnk being the top) in the party. If we aren't fed, raid dps can drop significantly for a period of time.

    If you only have one melee in the group, I could see a valid argument, but with two melee (be it mnk, drg or nin) who should be a great deal higher than any of the casters at this point (save for blm if he's getting crazy procs) I just don't see how this is the case.

    I, personally, have a problem with the answer "manage your tp better". Performing sub optimally when it comes to at least keeping my "priorities" doesn't sit well with mme.It has gotten to the point that random bards don't get goad from me unless I see them playing paeon for me at some point. Some would call that selfish, but if I'm out performing everyone and the other melee dps is as well and then we get left out to dry and rot until we can fend for ourselves again I don't see why I should.

    At that point, I may as well At least feed the other melee my goad so at least they can continue to put up their numbers.

    Explain why playing paeon for melees isn't worth it from your point of view, because I'm sure plenty of melee players can prove why it is worth it from theirs.

    Call melee players selfish if you want.. but that same phrase can be thrown right back at the bards.

    I am now genuinely curious about where the answer lies between these two opposing views.
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    Last edited by Leonus; 12-13-2014 at 01:56 AM.