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  1. #951
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    Allyrion's Avatar
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Akashiya View Post
    Only have to hit it once it looks like here is the full tooltip
    instant
    Delivers a threefold attack, each hit with a potency of 100.
    So one press but maybe the ability is split 3 times.
    That's good then, 3 chances to crit.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    what bother me with shade shift is about the fact that it seems get positional, for make simple it will probably work only if we face the enemy (i do hope it not the case)
    Positional for a defensive? That would be weird.
    Didn't sound like that.
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  2. #952
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    Arkenne's Avatar
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Cactuar
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    Rogue Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    shade shift gets positional?
    The effect its neither a parry nor a block, so its no positional, its a plain 20% of Max HP shield.

    No more badassery but at long last something def oriented for the NIN's survival...
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  3. #953
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    silentwindfr's Avatar
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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    maybe it's me that have badly understand, i guess you are right about this one. mea culpa.
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  4. #954
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    Zetsu Tei
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    Leviathan
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    Alchemist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by CBellz View Post
    I might be reading too much into this, but it seems like more than just a coincidence -
    Duality's recast time is 90s, exactly the same as Dream Within a Dream
    Duality is also learned right before Dream Within a Dream (lv 58 vs lv 60)

    Definitely not positive, but it these skills might be best used together judging from the context.
    Based on what I've heard DWaD is an ability, not a weaponskill. So Duality probably won't work with DWaD.
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  5. #955
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    Alahra's Avatar
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    Alahra Valkhir
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    Stop it.
    Final Fantasy had Bushin (English translation was mirage) since FFIV which came out in 1991.
    Then Kage Bushin for Final Fantasy came out in 1994 with FFVI, almost a decade (9 years) before the Naruto manga started.
    Not to mention Utsusemi, which NINs had in FFXI, which gave them shadow images to absorb attacks. I wish they would have called it that for the sake of my nostalgia instead of Shade Shift. But I'm glad we're getting a decent defensive cooldown now. Perfect Dodge was nice for a few gimmicky situations, but Shade Shift will have much greater applicability, I think.
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  6. #956
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    SunnyHirose's Avatar
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    Sunny Hirose
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    It's interesting they didn't end up having to change the Japanese name (残影, "traces" of something that used to be there). Perfect Dodge in XIV was a name chosen for what the action did, as opposed to XI where it corresponds to the skill's Japanese name (絶対回避).
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  7. #957
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    Dante_V's Avatar
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    Dante Venarra
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    Jenova
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    I would rather have perfect dodge honestly.
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  8. #958
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    Songi's Avatar
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    I would rather have perfect dodge honestly.
    Now we have a self stoneskin. It's very boring to say the least. It seems like the expansion is trying to make everything go back to being vanilla. I really don't like it.
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  9. #959
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    Zami Terrechant
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    Now we have a self stoneskin. It's very boring to say the least. It seems like the expansion is trying to make everything go back to being vanilla. I really don't like it.
    Songi HI

    anyways, the new shade shift ability should have more practical uses when you think about it, as its not limited to soley physical damage by the sounds of it, so its not like your giving up perfect dodge for nothing.
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  10. #960
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    Aiot O'lein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    Now we have a self stoneskin.
    At least NIN will have some sort of defense for magical attacks :/
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