The Ninja Superthread

[juniglee]

@Best-MNK-NA: Thank you for your help a couple of weeks ago. I've gotten two new pieces of gear (Dreadwyrm Sash of Scouting, and Ironworks Brais of Scouting) since, and settled on using your opener (although I do Trick Attack and Kassatsu in either side of Shadow Fang). I've also started using DEX pots. I ended my T11 clear last night with about 415 DPS. While it still feels rather lacking, I feel like it's probably because of Mudra lag. A couple of nights ago, I magically had zero lag, and I was hitting some upwards of 430 DPS on T11. I'm hoping to see the numbers go higher once I am more familiar with the tethers phase of the fight however.

Without my two new gear, on my T10 clear I managed to get to 402 DPS. Still feels low but hopefully it'll push up for next week with the new gear.

[Solus_Sto]

Ok, have a somewhat noobish question...

I'm just now really getting started on leveling Rogue/Ninja and only have it at 24. I know it's still a ways off, but I'm wondering what kind of Soldiery gear is best. There's always that chance that Poetics will be uncapped by the time I'm ready to start gearing, but I'm just curious about Soldiery first. I've never been big into running Coil, so that's my only other option. To be more specific, I know the body pieces are Gloam for NIN, but the accessories are what I'm confused about. I know logically, it would seem right to continue getting Gloam accessories, but the Auroral set seems better suited for NIN. Especially with the boost in DEX. Any thoughts/tips for me? SMN is my main, so switching to a melee DPS has been quite a change and any advice would be most appreciated!

Edit: I should also apologize if this is an old question that's already been answered elsewhere. I tried searching for info, but didn't really turn up anything. Thanks again in advance!

[Kilio]

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If you wanted soldiery gears and high allagan, you can try to take a look at this http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OPI4 which is i believe BIS for 2.3?

On a side note, just wondering anyone can tell me what's your dps on T12?

My Gear is http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PG4K and seems the max that i get upon cleared is about 450-ish, 1 melee, 4 bennus with Caster LB, and fountain duty.

Is that considered as low?

[Solus_Sto]

Thanks for the tip.

As for T12, I honestly couldn't help there...for whatever reason, I've put off Coil for too long and am just now getting through it for the first time. Just cleared T6 yesterday, so that's progress, I suppose. Plus, it doesn't help that I play on PS4. So if I'm ever curious about my DPS, I usually end up asking if it's decent or not.

[poipoy]

On a side note, just wondering anyone can tell me what's your dps on T12?

My Gear is http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/PG4K and seems the max that i get upon cleared is about 450-ish, 1 melee, 4 bennus with Caster LB, and fountain duty.

Is that considered as low?

In my opinion, that's quite good. It also depends how you deal with red fire and whether you got targeted for blue pool most of the time, do you need to chase after bennu? or glue to boss. Like my team, the melee deal with the red fire ourself, so have to run around when get targeted
I was always doing around 440-480ish(whole fight not just the final encounter) when I was using Augmented dagger in T12, with fountain duty(which i don't think affect our dps if the tank pulled boss near it), and also doing a LB3 during start of final phase (we don't use caster LB for 4 bennus), and another LB1 when it's up.

My gear stat was similar to yours before, around 560 crit, 340det, 420ss. This reset I got my dreadwyrm dagger and need to change around my equips for the accuracy

[Kilio]

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Red fire is handled by our SCH, and i glue to boss all the time, and yes fountain doesn't really affect our dps coz our tank pulled the boss near it.

Just wonderin coz my fellow FC mate says that his NIN on the team does 530 with the same augmented dagger in T12.

Gratz for the DW dagger, RNG is really F-ed up on our team since no Ninja BIS dropped at all thus i have to survive using Augmented and Crafted lol.

Startin to lose hope and might re-roll to MNK instead lol.

[poipoy]

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If you're glue to the boss most of the time. then 450 might not be the max you could have achieved i think, but I dont know whether you meant 450 as in the average for all phases or individual phase. P1 + P2 I could do from 540-570. bennu phase around 460-500 depending on how fast they die, wait time for big ones, and do i need to TA or just raiton, sometimes the timing is so bad lol. Last phase I'm around 460-480.
What I do was just note down how much i did everytime, and aim to increase it on next reset, albeit maybe only a slight increase lol. I was parsing around 580-600 on the dummy in a 4min30sec duration. From there I can estimate whether I'm doing good in a real fight. Those numbers are with my old gears. This week I had 3 upgrades, finally the RNGesus decided to love me this week , so hope can do better next run.

EDIT: Oh one more important thing, was your war able to keep up storm's eye? an excellent war is your best friend that makes you have consistent high dps. My team's war does an excellent job on it, even when he needs to tank bennu and pull it away. always refresh a new slashing debuff before he needs to focus on the coming new bennu pop. This is all due to familiarity though, in the early days, everyone's nervous and I had to apply debuff myself lol

[Kuroyasha]

Question: Does anyone know what opener Chloro Cradle from Lucrezia uses? Her/His dps is batsh1t cray cray. Idk when they stream or where so I cant see myself. Would love to practice that.

[SunnyHirose]

Question: Does anyone know what opener Chloro Cradle from Lucrezia uses? Her/His dps is batsh1t cray cray. Idk when they stream or where so I cant see myself. Would love to practice that.

About a month ago, someone asked, Chloro answered:

New question. Please teach me the current ninja rotation. I open DE → Sui → TA before SF → SF → Mutilate → AE before renewing DE, SF, and Mutilate. Advice, if you will?

My opening rotation is SE → BfB + IR → GS → X-Pot → DE → Sui → SE → TA + Kassatsu → SF → Rai → Mutilate →Jug + Mug.
Be warned that if you don't TA → Kassatsu before SF, you won't get TA on SF.
After that, you try to refresh any DoT that's going to fall off in about 3s, same as you it seems.

Shouldn't look all that alien to people who've inspected ninja openers, I think. Just really good at NIN.

[Kuroyasha]

About a month ago, someone asked, Chloro answered:



Shouldn't look all that alien to people who've inspected ninja openers, I think. Just really good at NIN.

I see. Only thing i never do is ta + kass in the same oGCD, nor jug+mug. I'll try it out and see how it goes, but yea not too different at all. Ill pray to the mudra gods of eorzea during next week coil run. I did notice on Lodestone chloro has a lot of diff pieces to go along with each turn, allowing her/him to get, for example, 558 crit 428 det and 396 SS for t10 while meeting acc cap for that turn at 632 dexterity. Very cool, but damn that gil for those rings(2 pentamelded 110 rings). xD