The Ninja Superthread

[Oboros]

My biggest issue with the positonals is the fact that trick attack is our current positional and it's Off the GCD. Let's say Spinning edge is flank and so is shadow fang it will be extremely tight and annoying to go flank > back as your ogcd > flank again.
Having to do that in a high stress moment during a raid while dodging/mechanics will be really difficult imo.
Imagine if steel peek was flank and howling fist was rear? Monks would really be unhappy. I just think having ogcd with positionals is flawed it was fine since our weapon skills had none but now I have a bad feeling about it.

[silentwindfr]

My biggest issue with the positonals is the fact that trick attack is our current positional and it's Off then GCD. Let's say Spinning edge is flank and so is shadow fang it will be extremely tight and annoying to go flank > back as your ogcd > flank again.
Having to do that in a high stress moment during a raid while dodging/mechanics will be really difficult imo.
Imagine if steel peek was flank and howling fist was rear? Monks would really be unhappy. I just think having ogcd with positionals is flawed it was fine since our weapon skills had none but now I have a bad feeling about it.

exactly, ninja was not means to get positional, and it can be feeled into the design. the combo system is worked in a way to make it complexe by itself if you add the ninjutsu at it. the combo is not fluid, and the mudra lag makeall this a frustrating experience, that the main reason of people dropping of the jobs. instead to adress this trouble... they did decide to add on top of this... positional. and if that wasn't enough, they add a third finish after gust slash. when already we can't add another third skill combo into our cycle. exept if we have a warrior that do storm's eye for us. the only way to add this skill... is to drop aeolian edge, our main finisher as dps.

what?!? how this was accepted as good? how this stuff was tested for be allowed to be added to our tool? because i really want to meet the one that did decide it was good to add this... because... i want to know if this person play ninja... if he did really try the jobs. because soo far i have seen nothing but... sorry for hard word, but dumb idea throw at us without even a concern about the big picture.

instead to focus on make us more deep in our originality, they did decide to add positional to us, while taking out from dragoon! for god sake! i'm almost surprise they haven't decided to add positional to our ninjutsu... maybe it's better i don't say it too loud or they will think it's a brillant idea!

ps: i will never say it enough, but the number of ninja playing will drop more with positional added. even if you only take in account the people that did choose this jobs because it was allowing them to play a melee without positional.... the number will drop and after a time, the number of people frustrated by this decision will be added to the count. all i see is a poor decision that will affect us in a very bad way. and maybe it's the time for them to listen to the people that do play the jobs. and instead to nerf us to work on us and wake up of them daydream and notice that the jobs have trouble that need to be adressed and that the jobs is far to be not needing any change!


pss: for the need to talk about positional into ninja, if they want to add it... to our GCD weaponskill, they need to rework the whole combo we do have. and stop to add more combo branching from the same skill.
they need to add another starter and more important, they need to complet the shadowfang combo. and even with this, they will still need to take out the positional of the out gcd skill TA/SA for make it viable.
finally, they need to rework the whole ninjutsu experience for make it more easy to handle while doing positional. because we can't respect positional+avoid enemy AoE while doing 2-4 action in less of 2.5 second (actually it's more 2.05 second) . we are not god.