The Ninja Superthread

[Crescent_Dusk]

Losing aggro on trick attack really should only happen if your tank sucks, as you will want dancing edge up, and getting that up gives them plenty of time to hold aggro. This is all pretty lackluster, and I don't see how we can compete with the tools that other dps are getting. How will our damage scale with them?

You'll essentially get Houton up and then passively keep it up, which means you'll be executing more Raitons in between Suitons now. There's also more skills in the ninja video and you don't know if the new positionals means they will do more damage than they currently do.

Speculating about dps disparities now is stupid and a waste of time.

[Azmaria]

You'll essentially get Houton up and then passively keep it up, which means you'll be executing more Raitons in between Suitons now. There's also more skills in the ninja video and you don't know if the new positionals means they will do more damage than they currently do.

Speculating about dps disparities now is stupid and a waste of time.

Yea as it is now you get 1 extra raiton, that's all that changes to mundra rotation. The new combo's could be nice, but given they have the effect of buffing huton's uptime, I doubt they will be our main damage combo. So far it looks like we keep up our dots, keep up dancing edge and weave in new combo's whenever we need to. Pretty boring when you compare to the shake up that everyone else is getting.

Just hard to be excited after seeing all the flashy new things that EVERYONE else is getting, while ninja get a small qol buff.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Yea as it is now you get 1 extra raiton, that's all that changes to mundra rotation. The new combo's could be nice, but given they have the effect of buffing huton's uptime, I doubt they will be our main damage combo. So far it looks like we keep up our dots, keep up dancing edge and weave in new combo's whenever we need to. Pretty boring when you compare to the shake up that everyone else is getting.

Just hard to be excited after seeing all the flashy new things that EVERYONE else is getting, while ninja get a small qol buff.

Using more raiton instead of 3-step mudras also lessens the issue of latency affecting your DPS as you can get a 2-step mudra within the GCD easier than a 3-step one.

And while you may not end up with as many toys or changes, that also means less complications and juggling for your class. Not all change is positive. The ninja abilities video showed several new ones so at least wait a little till we know more about those.

Keep in mind ninja needed less changes because it was a far more fleshed out and complete class as a new job compared to the vanilla jobs. The ninja has an interesting rotation and thematic kit.

[Allyrion]

Yea as it is now you get 1 extra raiton, that's all that changes to mundra rotation. The new combo's could be nice, but given they have the effect of buffing huton's uptime, I doubt they will be our main damage combo. So far it looks like we keep up our dots, keep up dancing edge and weave in new combo's whenever we need to. Pretty boring when you compare to the shake up that everyone else is getting.

Just hard to be excited after seeing all the flashy new things that EVERYONE else is getting, while ninja get a small qol buff.

NIN is fairly new though. It's been the flashy new thing. The other jobs are catching up.
We might get a bit less but I think people are jumping the gun when we clearly new flashy weaponskills that weren't explained.

NIN needs more time before they can shake up the design as much as the rest.