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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Don't worry guys sounds like Ninjas are getting positionals and still get to deal with mudra lag AND even better another mostly useless utility spell that lowers threat.

    And positional are the best case situation from how the translation sounded.
    Well, they implied that we can extend Fuuton instead of recasting it.
    Taking away one of the 3-mudra casts would be really helpful since that's where you really feel the lag.
    I can deal with just Suiton, and positionals aren't a big deal coming from Monk.
    More utility is good, but it can't be too useful to make NIN mandatory for just that.

    There were some new damage moves in the video that they didn't explain.
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    Pluvia Zephyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    Well, they implied that we can extend Fuuton instead of recasting it.
    Taking away one of the 3-mudra casts would be really helpful since that's where you really feel the lag.
    I can deal with just Suiton, and positionals aren't a big deal coming from Monk.
    More utility is good, but it can't be too useful to make NIN mandatory for just that.

    There were some new damage moves in the video that they didn't explain.
    Well lets just hope they balance it well. But i have this feeling its going to be monk or go home for progression all over again.
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    Last edited by Pluvia; 05-22-2015 at 03:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Well lets just hope they balance it well. But i have this feeling its going to be monk or go home for progression all over again.
    lol NIN have been favored over monk for a while and here you are whining about monks. Trick Attack and Goad in addition to similar DPS output without positionals is what put NIN in a category of its own.

    Try losing your mudras everytime a boss goes up in the air or you get targeted by a mechanic, then we'll talk. But monks have that oh so "useful' Mantra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crescent_Dusk View Post
    lol NIN have been favored over monk for a while and here you are whining about monks. Trick Attack and Goad in addition to similar DPS output without positionals is what put NIN in a category of its own.

    Try losing your mudras everytime a boss goes up in the air or you get targeted by a mechanic, then we'll talk. But monks have that oh so "useful' Mantra.
    And monks have always been the go too melee for progression and ninja barely does more damage then monk you can't be Dragon kick and 20% mantra for progression. I guess if you tank really sucks(get a new one) the aggro thing will be useful. Also most peoples mudra lag its a dps loss to use raiton so a lot of ninjas are using fuma shuriken so no refreshing Huton really isn't that awsome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    And monks have always been the go too melee for progression and ninja barely does more damage then monk you can't be Dragon kick and 20% mantra for progression. I guess if you tank really sucks(get a new one) the aggro thing will be useful. Also most peoples mudra lag its a dps loss to use raiton so a lot of ninjas are using fuma shuriken so no refreshing Huton really isn't that awsome.
    You say that like groups don't usually have two melee. Only need one MNK for DK and Mantra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    You say that like groups don't usually have two melee. Only need one MNK for DK and Mantra.
    Or you know double monk could be the go to thing again. It really isn't an issue to me i can play either well i just prefer not to have 2 melees dancing around and then dancing around aoes and white fires and shit like that to get each other killed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pluvia View Post
    Or you know double monk could be the go to thing again. It really isn't an issue to me i can play either well i just prefer not to have 2 melees dancing around and then dancing around aoes and white fires and shit like that to get each other killed.
    Has double MNK been a thing since NIN released? I know some of the first groups through FCoB had double MNK, but MNK/NIN made it into the first 5 groups, so. . . And I doubt that having a DK slave for one MNK will be a bigger DPS boost than having TA available.
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