The Ninja Superthread

[Kuroyasha]

Question: Does anyone know what opener Chloro Cradle from Lucrezia uses? Her/His dps is batsh1t cray cray. Idk when they stream or where so I cant see myself. Would love to practice that.

[SunnyHirose]

Question: Does anyone know what opener Chloro Cradle from Lucrezia uses? Her/His dps is batsh1t cray cray. Idk when they stream or where so I cant see myself. Would love to practice that.

About a month ago, someone asked, Chloro answered:

New question. Please teach me the current ninja rotation. I open DE → Sui → TA before SF → SF → Mutilate → AE before renewing DE, SF, and Mutilate. Advice, if you will?

My opening rotation is SE → BfB + IR → GS → X-Pot → DE → Sui → SE → TA + Kassatsu → SF → Rai → Mutilate →Jug + Mug.
Be warned that if you don't TA → Kassatsu before SF, you won't get TA on SF.
After that, you try to refresh any DoT that's going to fall off in about 3s, same as you it seems.

Shouldn't look all that alien to people who've inspected ninja openers, I think. Just really good at NIN.

[Kuroyasha]

About a month ago, someone asked, Chloro answered:



Shouldn't look all that alien to people who've inspected ninja openers, I think. Just really good at NIN.

I see. Only thing i never do is ta + kass in the same oGCD, nor jug+mug. I'll try it out and see how it goes, but yea not too different at all. Ill pray to the mudra gods of eorzea during next week coil run. I did notice on Lodestone chloro has a lot of diff pieces to go along with each turn, allowing her/him to get, for example, 558 crit 428 det and 396 SS for t10 while meeting acc cap for that turn at 632 dexterity. Very cool, but damn that gil for those rings(2 pentamelded 110 rings). xD

[Aiurily]

I see. Only thing i never do is ta + kass in the same oGCD, nor jug+mug.

doing se>trick>sf will still get a buffed sf, i've tested this

i used to do se>kassatsu+ta>sf and realized SF doesn't apply for that TA. if you do se>ta+kassatsu>sf it'll apply, but it'll still work with se>ta>sf as well, without gcd clipping that 99% of people will have

[Kuroyasha]

doing se>trick>sf will still get a buffed sf, i've tested this

i used to do se>kassatsu+ta>sf and realized SF doesn't apply for that TA. if you do se>ta+kassatsu>sf it'll apply, but it'll still work with se>ta>sf as well, without gcd clipping that 99% of people will have

Yea Se > ta > sf is what ive been doing all along. Sad to hear kass + ta wont apply to sf, cause it's the only way ive been able to try it without slight clpping my gcd. Ill try to switch some things around on hotbar to make it easiest to reach on my controller and see if it helps perform ta+kass eliminate the slight clip.

I do notice that when i do se > ta >sf > kass instead of chlro's my raiton is ready at 20 and ends at 18, but doing it chloro way i can consistently have 23 sec left when beginning raiton. This is even with my mudra lag (ps4 so no wtfast battleping etc). Maybe im mistiming or something doing my old way.

Edit: FFS i cannot get ta + kass in a single oGCD w/o clipping and, thus, missing AE on the last second of trick atk.

Edit 2: With some more practice got it to fit w/o clipping. Really have zero room for error on the timing. If u have any mudra lag on the Kassatsu'd raiton probably wont get that last AE to fit under TA, unless maybe sub in fuma. Nevertheless, the mudra rotation itself lines up significantly better for me than before in terms of how many seconds are left when doing second raiton and when refreshing huton.

[SunnyHirose]

doing se>trick>sf will still get a buffed sf, i've tested this

Yeah, as long as the debuff appears on the mob's status effects, it should apply. It's possible the circumstances may have been different at the time it was tested, or the guy is just too wicked fast for it, but the animation/application is pretty quick for me.

[Kuroyasha]

Yeah, as long as the debuff appears on the mob's status effects, it should apply. It's possible the circumstances may have been different at the time it was tested, or the guy is just too wicked fast for it, but the animation/application is pretty quick for me.

Yea i just tried it again the Kass+ TA oGCD vs TA+Kass oGCD, and both are giving me same DoT dmg ticks, plus i have a little more wiggle room in Kass+TA so it never clips (versus TA+Kass where it seems if im not absolutely perfect it will clip slightly). Works for me.