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    Best-MNK-NA's Avatar
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    Meat Chiefkabob
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Your BIS slot list isn't actually BIS.

    This is as far as I can tell: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OTEF

    Gives up some VIT for 2-3 stats worth of DEX depending on your stat weights. Not sure where your stat weights came from (or the MNK ones, would love a source for why that's been updated) but NIN and MNK most certainly do not have the same stat weights. NIN benefits from crit far more than either melee dps - they attack faster than DRG and have significantly less auto-crits than MNK.

    Opener is missing X-Pot and applies Mutilate before it gets buffed by Trick attack. Try:

    Huton (pre-pull, 10s) > BfB > SE > IR > GS > X-Pot > DE > Suiton > SE > Trick Attack > SF > Kassatsu > Mutilate > Raiton > SE > Mug > GS > Jugulate > AE
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    Last edited by Best-MNK-NA; 12-12-2014 at 04:34 PM.

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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Best-MNK-NA View Post

    Gives up some VIT for 2-3 stats worth of DEX depending on your stat weights. Not sure where your stat weights came from (or the MNK ones, would love a source for why that's been updated)
    Weight's will update periodically each time there is an item level boost. The purpose of weights are to adjust for the latest item level increase. Each increase of ilevel will provide x Job with a different potential stat-load out. On top of this, the values of each weight will shift depending on the reach of stats with the ilevel increase. The weights of SS/CRT will increase as the DET increases. The weight of WD will decrease as our weapons WD increases - but the weight increases as our Primary stat (str/dex) increases. For example with Dragoons, in ilevel 110/patch 2.2, the Dragoons base Skill Speed was much higher. Therefore, the value of 1 Skillspeed per Strength decreased. We also had much lower DET. Come patch 2.4 with ilvl135, our gears base SkillSpeed absolutely plummeted and DET was increased a lot more. Therefore, the value of Skillspeed and Crit absolutely exploded.

    Also this patch, the ilvl:STR ratio increased by a metric tonne, increasing the value of WD a lot more.
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    Last edited by Dervy; 12-12-2014 at 07:25 PM.

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    Manu-Kesna's Avatar
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    Manu Kesna
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 60
    Hello! I want to start maining Ninja for this expansion and I would love some tips on how to get better and what would be the optimal rotation and that kind of stuff. Thanks for the help
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    Korashy Trillian
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    Diabolos
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Manu-Kesna View Post
    Hello! I want to start maining Ninja for this expansion and I would love some tips on how to get better and what would be the optimal rotation and that kind of stuff. Thanks for the help
    A few pages back someone wrote down the optimal rotation. They also have a pretty decent guide in their signature. NIN is a fast playstyle that can heavily punish your dps for mistakes, so it's not for everyone.
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    Kazumi Sangaku
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Korashy View Post
    A few pages back
    Why isn't the initial post being updated? Or if the poster is no longer around, why hasn't a new superthread been started for the expansion?
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    Vik Vicious
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    Hyperion
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow12000 View Post
    Why isn't the initial post being updated? Or if the poster is no longer around, why hasn't a new superthread been started for the expansion?
    Apologies to all my fellow Ninjas out there. I've been away for a while and in coming back I've found myself with less time than I previously had. Fret not, though, Leggerless, aka LordTiberiusRex, the author of Ninja: Heaven-Sword, will be creating a new thread to keep you all better informed.

    In the meantime, I've band-aided the OP with a few updates and quotes straight out of the aforementioned guide. I hope it's enough to hold you all over until the new thread is ready.
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    F'cahnah Yohko
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Public announcement? I too live dangerously.

    I'm going to pull something like a Dervy with Ninja, folks.
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Monk Lv 80
    What's the ideal DPS I should be aiming for? Last night I ended up with 457, then when i left combat to end the parse, I had 448. Here's my lodestone to give you an idea about what gear i'm using:

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/7183123/
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    Roegadyn Masterrace
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    Tonberry
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Phireblast View Post
    What's the ideal DPS I should be aiming for? Last night I ended up with 457, then when i left combat to end the parse, I had 448. Here's my lodestone to give you an idea about what gear i'm using:

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/7183123/
    Is that with party buff/food/pots etc?
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    Mike Fisticuffison
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by FyrmurlFloerasksyn View Post
    Is that with party buff/food/pots etc?
    No foreign buffs, no.
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