The Ninja Superthread

[Arkenne]

Duality literaly Doubles

I hope thats really true, Im on my way there.
Still quite the underwhelming effect, would've been more fun if it lasted a few seconds... tho a bit OP.

Weaving DWAD, MUG, JUG & Duality before TA ends

It should be feasable if you proc B4B, IR and Kassatsu before TA itself happens, since its literally 5 GCD in a TA, so 5 OGCD might as well happen.
'Twould need to be something along the lines of:
~(Suiton) -> SE(B4B) -> GS(Kassatsu) -> DE(IR) -> SE(TA) -> GS(Duality) -> AE(DwD) -> SE(Shuriken) -> SF(Mug) -> MU(Jug) *effects ends*~
More or less... Raiton would be impossible for most in this, sadly.

Edit: typos

[Viridiana]

I hope thats really true, Im on my way there.
Still quite the underwhelming effect, would've been more fun if it lasted a few seconds... tho a bit OP.

It is. At basic level 58 gear I'm getting an extra 1k damage every time it's up, assuming I don't botch the positional or accidentally hit it too soon. The only thing is that neither one can crit from what I can tell, so it devalues crit a bit.

[NovaLevossida]

I hope thats really true, Im on my way there.
Still quite the underwhelming effect, would've been more fun if it lasted a few seconds... tho a bit OP.

It's kind of nice. When buffs are up and trick attack is applied, at level 58 I've seen Aeolian Edge hit for 1400 and then the damage comes right after it mirrored. So I'd see like...

1400
1400

Which is kind of nice all things considered.

[softestPAWSintheEAST]

This is what i've come up with so far as a rotation.. could use inputs and suggestions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57g0ZbAxNeo

basically <40s huton armor crush

i feel like it can be better

[Krolja]

Seems pretty smooth. You managed to be where you needed to be when debuffs needed to be reapplied. I'm not sure about the Armor Crush areas (as I'm still experimenting myself), but in any case you kept all debuffs up or immediately reapplied within a GCD of falling off (which is great). Why did you hold your TA so long during the second Suiton? I saw that you waited until after your DE application to use it. If you were waiting so SF got the TA buff, I think you were within the GCDs to make SF just at the end of the TA which would have been applied to the GS and DE. Other than that, I thought it looked very good for so early into the expansions life! ^_^

[NovaLevossida]

As a quick question, is Shadewalker something I cast on the active tank? Like does it take 80% of the enmity I, myself, generate and transfer that to the target I selected? I thought it was just Quelling Strikes for the person I targeted, but I saw that it might work as something to move my own enmity generation onto the tank. So which is correct? Shadewalker onto the tank at the beginning of the fight when I go to burst at the start or Shadewalker a healer so that 80% of the enmity he generates goes to a doppelganger that disappears in 15 seconds?

Couldn't really tell from the tooltip wording which way it actually worked.

[softestPAWSintheEAST]

Seems pretty smooth. You managed to be where you needed to be when debuffs needed to be reapplied. I'm not sure about the Armor Crush areas (as I'm still experimenting myself), but in any case you kept all debuffs up or immediately reapplied within a GCD of falling off (which is great). Why did you hold your TA so long during the second Suiton? I saw that you waited until after your DE application to use it. If you were waiting so SF got the TA buff, I think you were within the GCDs to make SF just at the end of the TA which would have been applied to the GS and DE. Other than that, I thought it looked very good for so early into the expansions life! ^_^

thanks! and i held the TA for a bit so that it could have the blood for blood buff. depending on my mudra delays and stuff, i might be maybe 1 or 2 gcds off but that's my reasoning anyways.

yeah, i'm not sure when to armor crush =( it just makes sense to armor crush <40s

Shadewalker gives the enmity you generate to the person you target, yes.

Smoke Screen, on the other hand, lowers the target's enmity (in an all at once drop like Shroud of Saints, as far as I can tell).

is it like shroud? i thought it was more like quelling strikes. i'll have to check again after the maintenance

[Alahra]

is it like shroud? i thought it was more like quelling strikes. i'll have to check again after the maintenance

As far as I've been able to tell, yes. It doesn't provide them with a buff the way Quelling Strikes does, so it seems to be an instant one-time effect. It doesn't seem to be as powerful as Shroud, though.

[Pluvia]

As far as I've been able to tell, yes. It doesn't provide them with a buff the way Quelling Strikes does, so it seems to be an instant one-time effect. It doesn't seem to be as powerful as Shroud, though.

IIRC it puts a buff on them I'll double check as soon as the servers come up and confirm

[softestPAWSintheEAST]

As far as I've been able to tell, yes. It doesn't provide them with a buff the way Quelling Strikes does, so it seems to be an instant one-time effect. It doesn't seem to be as powerful as Shroud, though.

hmm.. because when you smokescreen, they have the buff on them for 20 seconds iirc. it wouldn't make sense for a instant-one time effect to have a duration