The Ninja Superthread

[Arkenne]

They might synch in their CDs, but the effects can't overlap, damage-output wise.

[Dante_V]

That would be with me keeping the debuff up and no warrior. I always calculate it that way because my last static had two pallys for some reason. But yeah if you add a warrior into the mix you can probably almost double the aeolian number. It was calculated on the basis that a "full rotation" would consist of dancing combo > shadowfang/mutilate combo > aeolian combo. I used my opener to calculate which is has a 15 second mudra precast. But if you have a warrior then you would be able to get 2 aeolians from one "full rotation".

This also means, and this is with the understanding that aeolian and crush are the only gcds with positionals, that you will be doing a positional every 16 seconds (not including trick attack)

[Leonus]

Anyone know the potency on the refresh?

[Dante_V]

Anyone know the potency on the refresh?

I do not but I wish i did. The extent of my understanding of it's damage is that full damage comes from the flank positional.

[Arkenne]

In a rotation by self-sustain and no wait time after casting Huton, I can wind in 4 Aeolians.
If I replace 1 AE for 1 Crush, I could potentially throw 2 Shurikens before reapplying Huton...

The skill is meant to extend it so dropping it for refresh is also an option.
Not using it at all is also possible.
If you have no access to the rear side when its AE's turn, it can also come in handy.
So far it seems Issou is an AE exclusivity.

[CBellz]

I might be reading too much into this, but it seems like more than just a coincidence -
Duality's recast time is 90s, exactly the same as Dream Within a Dream
Duality is also learned right before Dream Within a Dream (lv 58 vs lv 60)

Definitely not positive, but it these skills might be best used together judging from the context.

[Massterchef]

I might be reading too much into this, but it seems like more than just a coincidence -
Duality's recast time is 90s, exactly the same as Dream Within a Dream
Duality is also learned right before Dream Within a Dream (lv 58 vs lv 60)

Definitely not positive, but it these skills might be best used together judging from the context.

Based on what I've heard DWaD is an ability, not a weaponskill. So Duality probably won't work with DWaD.

[Leonus]

DWaD seems kind of underwhelming to me now if it applies the second attack without the bonus. It sucks I'm out if town till next weekend. I don't get to take advantage of early release. I really want to play with these abilities. I'm thinking we'll fall to 3rd in the melee dps ranks unfortunately... for some reason.

Feels like drg and mnk got cooler toys for the expansion than we do.

[Arkenne]

Feels like drg and mnk got cooler toys for the expansion than we do.

That to a degree its true, but MNK really wont change much outside of the opener.
DRG will get a way more frustrating rotation tho.
Most of NIN added on stuff are stand alone at least. Altho I admit they do look a bit lackluster.

[Akashiya]

Armor Crush:
Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
160 when executed from a target's flank.
Combo Action: Gust Slash
Combo Potency: 220 (280 when executed from a target's flank)
Combo Bonus: Extends Huton duration by 30s to a maximum of 70s
thats from people on reddits links

Dream within a dream is a potency of 100 each hit

perfect dodge is now shade shift
Create shadows that nullify damage up to 20% of your maximum hp lasts 20s 2min cd