The Ninja Superthread

[Ephier]

I don't really miss mudras at all, its more of that delay just driving me crazy mid fight. Its really frustrating to know you can do more damage, but can't because mudra says so.

[Dervy]

Have people ever considered that not only does their distance from your house to your data-center account for latency, but their actual ISP is garbage?

[Odowla]

Have people ever considered that not only does their distance from your house to your data-center account for latency, but their actual ISP is garbage?

no, blame SE its all their fault

[Ephier]

Have people ever considered that not only does their distance from your house to your data-center account for latency, but their actual ISP is garbage?

I already considered that, had my ISP check everything on their end etc. For the most part even WTFast will spike before my own net will. So . . . -shrug-

[Atreides]

Ninja is probably the class that is affected the most by latency, sure Ninjutus make up a small percentage of our overall DPS but the longer the execution takes the more time we waste.
I feel like I'm 100% of the time on the mercy of my connection, sometimes I skyrocket the parser because I have an awesome delay and the Mudras come very quick and other times it takes me 3+ seconds to use Suiton/Huton and my DPS flushes down the toilet.
With WTFast I have an average ms of 130 but ever since the basic version became free it got worse durring peak times.
I'm still rooting for the EU servers, once they come I can really enjoy Ninja.

[Discordia]

I see a lot of Rogues (not Ninjas) in DF for Syrcus Tower, trials, etc. Is there some consensus that Rogue will do more damage than Ninja? I'm confused as to what is going on...

Edit: to clarify, people aren't equipping their soulstones

[Ricdeau]

I see a lot of Rogues (not Ninjas) in DF for Syrcus Tower, trials, etc. Is there some consensus that Rogue will do more damage than Ninja? I'm confused as to what is going on...

Edit: to clarify, people aren't equipping their soulstones

It simply comes down to these players either being really bad, trolling, or they are testing something that is going to result in less DPS. I'm guessing it's the first. With that being said not using their soulstone will not result in more DPS regardless of what crossclass abilities they take.

[Discordia]

It simply comes down to these players either being really bad, trolling, or they are testing something that is going to result in less DPS. I'm guessing it's the first. With that being said not using their soulstone will not result in more DPS regardless of what crossclass abilities they take.

If what you say is true, then it's troubling, considering how many have ilvl 130 gear (I'm assuming this is the best gear in the game?) Either that or they're just being carried by their FC.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

If what you say is true, then it's troubling, considering how many have ilvl 130 gear (I'm assuming this is the best gear in the game?) Either that or they're just being carried by their FC.

They probably just don't want to deal with the mudra lag lol. Either way, it's less dps.

[Ricdeau]

If what you say is true, then it's troubling, considering how many have ilvl 130 gear (I'm assuming this is the best gear in the game?) Either that or they're just being carried by their FC.

Dreadwyrm is the only thing that is going to require any real effort these days. Ironworks doesn't have any major difficulty to obtaining it anymore. Ever since they upgraded hunts, and then added in Carboncoats/twine and the weapon upgrade tome to WoD anyone can be full i130.

Above all else not having Huton for 15% increased attack speed (15% faster auto attacks and 15% faster GCD) is not something you can compensate for with more crossclass abilities. That alone will always put Rogue behind Ninja. Then you factor in the 30 Dex increase as well as the other Ninja abilities it's not even debatable.