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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    This is correct, I made a mistacke while writing the weapon file .... My apologies

    So after fixing, the bis is : http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q330
    In other words, treuhavik's set ^^

    Apprently you can't get any better.
    The set I gave in my previous post is just below.

    The 3rd one would be this :

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Q331
    Cannot have a 32acc/21crit/38det zeta. You will not reach the bonus stat cap for the extra crit. It will be 32acc/20crit/38det. Lowering the dex value by .226. Same with the other set you created. the 43 crit would go down to 42 instead, dropping the dex value by .226.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Cannot have a 32acc/21crit/38det zeta. You will not reach the bonus stat cap for the extra crit. It will be 32acc/20crit/38det. Lowering the dex value by .226. Same with the other set you created. the 43 crit would go down to 42 instead, dropping the dex value by .226.
    I am perfectly aware or this, but I don't have the time nor all the information about this.
    Also this wouldn't change the results anyway since the weights gap is larger than 0.226.
    If you have that information I'd be glad that you share it with me ^^ to be to be honest, if you get two sets with 0.226 difference because of one crit, you'd better consider them equal since the DPS difference would impossible to judge ^^ With Det things would be different since it's a direct increase not relying on RNG, but in case of crit it's a whole different story. In theory one would be superior, but not in practice ^^
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    I don't even have amazing latency anymore. T11 pls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    I am perfectly aware or this, but I don\\'t have the time nor all the information about this.
    Also this wouldn\\'t change the results anyway since the weights gap is larger than 0.226.
    If you have that information I\\'d be glad that you share it with me ^^ to be to be honest, if you get two sets with 0.226 difference because of one crit, you\\'d better consider them equal since the DPS difference would impossible to judge ^^ With Det things would be different since it\\'s a direct increase not relying on RNG, but in case of crit it\\'s a whole different story. In theory one would be superior, but not in practice ^^
    Does not matter if the end result would change or not, falsifying numerical data and saying it\\'s correct because you are too lazy to go look for the information (food and zeta weapon stats) does not make it okay. You also do not consider them equal in this situation a difference of .226 is a difference. When calculating .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Does not matter if the end result would change or not, falsifying numerical data and saying it\\'s correct because you are too lazy to go look for the information (food and zeta weapon stats) does not make it okay. You also do not consider them equal in this situation a difference of .226 is a difference. When calculating .
    I am not "too lazy" to look for them, I created my progam last summer for novus stats at the begining and updated a few days agao. All of it during my spare time and I wanted to share it on a good will. Now I have included the food I can update it for Zeta stats calibration and what I meant by 1 crit difference is that I don't think it would change the outcome since the last I gave here is probably the best. I'll update my program but to be sure of that though.
    And you don't have to be so condescending to me.
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    Last edited by Deithwen; 03-20-2015 at 08:23 PM.

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    When calculating* BIS you are calculating weights, not real world application, there is a difference
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    Does anyone have BIS for non-zeta and non-crafted build?
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    Quote Originally Posted by amaezing View Post
    Does anyone have BIS for non-zeta and non-crafted build?
    You can use ffxiv.ariyala.com for that, just put the new weights into the BiS solver and you'll get it. The only reason ariyala can't calculate the "real" non-crafted BiS is because it doesn't take individual zeta builds into account.
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    Use this Relic Builder if you want precise Zeta Builds.

    http://bitsmaine.org/ffxivrelic/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Use this Relic Builder if you want precise Zeta Builds.

    http://bitsmaine.org/ffxivrelic/
    Thank you !
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