The Ninja Superthread

[Gh0st_Pr0digy]

if i need to lb and have trick available i try to use it before I lb but my reason is that so while im casting lb and stuck in the animations the rest of the raid is doing more damage. but ya i didnt think trick actually affect lb damage

[RaizeGraymalkin]

Quick question. I forget where I saw/read this but if there are two trash mobs left in a group, is it more efficient to use Katon or Raiton? I always just focused down one target at a time and stuck with the latter, but then I heard using the former is the better choice (though it is trash so whatever). I'm just curious.

[Best-MNK-NA]

Quick question. I forget where I saw/read this but if there are two trash mobs left in a group, is it more efficient to use Katon or Raiton? I always just focused down one target at a time and stuck with the latter, but then I heard using the former is the better choice (though it is trash so whatever). I'm just curious.

It's equally effective. Raiton is 360 potency, Katon is 180 (if it huts two targets that's 360 potency of damage). I'd just Raiton and burn down one target a time personally, but some situations it's better to use Katon depending on your group.

[Zeviand]

I found out today the only other group on my server that's cleared T13 is comboing their LB3 with Trick Attack to do more damage. I've always been under the impression LB damage wasn't affected by anything. Has anyone done actual testing to see if they do combine together?

Arguments could be made on both sides but it would make sense if it did increase LB damage. Adds in t13 too close to the boss take a reduced amount of damage from lb from the vulnerability down buff, so the increased damage from vulnerability up might be worth confirming.

[Kenji1134]

Ive a question for you guys.
In recent days, almost every ninja I've grouped with (as a tank) has been spamming Doton on ST fights.
Odin, 2 ninjas kept using Doton.
AKHM, 2 ninjas again kept using Doton for all ST boss phases.
WoD, again, seeing a LOT of Doton on ST bosses. IE its planted right under the boss, while the adds are spawning (and being tanked) along the sides.

Doton, if all ticks land, is 240 aoe potency. On 1 target, thats still 240.
Raiton is 360... 360 > 240... so why are so many spamming Doton on 1 mob?

[Best-MNK-NA]

why are so many spamming Doton on 1 mob?

They're bad at the job.

So I finally got a chance to test LB + TA. Without TA LB1 averaged 7.9k-8.1k damage. With TA it did 8.7k-8.9k damage. So it's good enough for me to confirm: Trick Attack does combo with Limit Break.

[Kiyomu]

So I finally got a chance to test LB + TA. Without TA LB1 averaged 7.9k-8.1k damage. With TA it did 8.7k-8.9k damage. So it's good enough for me to confirm: Trick Attack does combo with Limit Break.

I tested this after seeing this post. With the same party and performed done on a training dummy, LB1 did 8.2k while TA LB1 did 8.1k. Trick Attack does not combo with Limit Break.

[Kilio]

I tested this after seeing this post. With the same party and performed done on a training dummy, LB1 did 8.2k while TA LB1 did 8.1k. Trick Attack does not combo with Limit Break.

+1 to above post. Tried it too with the same party on a training dummy, LB1 did 8.5k while LB1+TA did 8.1k

[Kaze3434]

Ive a question for you guys.
In recent days, almost every ninja I've grouped with (as a tank) has been spamming Doton on ST fights.
Odin, 2 ninjas kept using Doton.
AKHM, 2 ninjas again kept using Doton for all ST boss phases.
WoD, again, seeing a LOT of Doton on ST bosses. IE its planted right under the boss, while the adds are spawning (and being tanked) along the sides.

Doton, if all ticks land, is 240 aoe potency. On 1 target, thats still 240.
Raiton is 360... 360 > 240... so why are so many spamming Doton on 1 mob?

whenever me or my friend who plays ninja see this we ask if they messed up the mudra. if they didnt, then we ask them if they know how dots work. 9/10 they dont.

[treuhavik]

Ive a question for you guys.
In recent days, almost every ninja I've grouped with (as a tank) has been spamming Doton on ST fights.
Odin, 2 ninjas kept using Doton.
AKHM, 2 ninjas again kept using Doton for all ST boss phases.
WoD, again, seeing a LOT of Doton on ST bosses. IE its planted right under the boss, while the adds are spawning (and being tanked) along the sides.

Doton, if all ticks land, is 240 aoe potency. On 1 target, thats still 240.
Raiton is 360... 360 > 240... so why are so many spamming Doton on 1 mob?

whenever me or my friend who plays ninja see this we ask if they messed up the mudra. if they didnt, then we ask them if they know how dots work. 9/10 they dont.

Yeah... It seems a lot of people (not just NINs) take one glance at their ability tool-tips and use them based on that impression. I'm sure these Ninjas are thinking "It's a DoT, why wouldn't I want to put it up?" because, like I said, they aren't actually putting any effort into learning the skills before they use them.

Unfortunately, we can't make people "play good". All we can do is put together resources like this and hope enough people don't want to suck.