The Ninja Superthread

[Aiurily]

random (shit) openers. adjust ae/de depending on what your warrior does for storm's eye

huton on pull - muti>se>gs>ae/de>se>(ir+bfb)>sf>(jugulate)>se>(mug)>gs>(xpot)>ae/de>se>(suiton)>gs>(ta)>ae/de>(kassatsu)>se>(raiton)>sf>mutilate

unbuffed muti into ir+bfb sf, ending on bfb+xpot+ta sf and xpot+ta mutilate. with sub 2.00 gcd and good ping, you can fit in the last mutilate during bfb as well

huton (15s wait) - (ir)>se>(bfb)>gs>(xpot)>ae/de>(suiton)>se>(ta)>sf>(kassatsu)>mutilate>(raiton)>se>(mug)>gs>(jugulate)>ae/de

ir/bfb/xpot/ta up for both dots, fast ta on pull. pretty simple, but good.

huton (10s wait) - (ir)>muti>se>(late bfb)>sf>se>gs>(xpot)>ae/de>(suiton)>se(ta)>gs(kassatsu)>ae/de>(raiton)>se>(mug)>sf>(jugulate)>mutilate

tight opening that needs some skillspeed if you want the last mutilate to get bfb. ir buffed mutilate>ir+bfb sf>bfb+xpot+ta sf>bfb+xpot+ta mutilate. the last mutilate clips at 8-9s under ta/bfb/xpot but worth it probably. easier with good ping.

[Butcherboy]

Great thread. Since a lot of ninja info r everywhere scattered.

[treuhavik]

Thanks everyone!

I've added the new BiS and all of these openers for now. Someone want to prove which is superior?

[Butcherboy]

Yeah I'd like to know as well since I'm using the suiton opener.

[Arkenne]

Well, Im just being a detail-whore here but:

**Suiton = Hide, allowing use of TA and SA for it's duration**

Available Cross Class Abilities

Suiton is not equal to Hide, since it doesn't make you invisible to your enemies, but it does allow the use of TA and SA under the next 10 seconds.

And in Available Cross Class Abilities, you pointed out the Pugulist, which is undertandable, but why Dragoon? Shouldn't it be Lancer then?



One important thing about Hide is that maybe you can't use it in battle, but so long is not a boss you are dealing with and your enemy list is clear, you aren't in battle, then you CAN hide even if your companions in party started the fight already.

This is specially good if you need to kill a certain mob asap and you don't want to wait for Mudras to refresh for Suiton -> Trick Attack.
As in Huton -> Shukuchi -> Hide -> Trick Attack -> Whatever :U

After you used this, however, you won't have Hide enabled until the current mob is dead.

[Ragology]

I think a better title would have been "The ninja Guiden"

I don't play ninja at all so this thread will be helpful for me. The Dragoon rotation reborn thread is what made me try that job.

[treuhavik]

Well, Im just being a detail-whore here but:


Suiton is not equal to Hide, since it doesn't make you invisible to your enemies, but it does allow the use of TA and SA under the next 10 seconds.

And in Available Cross Class Abilities, you pointed out the Pugulist, which is undertandable, but why Dragoon? Shouldn't it be Lancer then?

Fixed! Thanks for combing through it for me, I'll add your hide tip to the list.

[treuhavik]

I think a better title would have been "The ninja Guiden"

Ha! That would've been great. Honestly, I just found myself spending waayy too much time trying to come up with a good one so I went with the most generic title I could think of lol

[Kuroyasha]

I've gotten so many nin drops from coil im at the point where im about to say forget BiS and just poetic up other classes i like to play. lol Only missing 4 pieces(head,chest,hands,ring). Nice info. I use a modified version of that last opener that allows for some things to line up well, but that one works fine too.

[treuhavik]

Getting just under 700 initial burst and 505ish sustained now using Shaolin Mike's rotation (Huton pre-pull > SE > B4B > GS > IR > DE > Suiton > Multilate > Trick Attack > SE > Kassatsu > SF > Raiton > SE > Mug > GS > Jugulate > AE)

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/OUMD On dummy - No food, party or pots This was including Assassinate however

I'll get around to testing the others soon.