The Ninja Superthread

[Viridiana]

I think the reason why he told u not to debuff anymore is prolly due to TP usage. That's what I think.

Maintaining the debuff would be less TP usage than using Aeolian.

[Leonus]

DE = 50 tp right?
AE = 60 now
SF = 70 now

If it is then DE + SF + AE = 180 tp total.
SF + AE + AE = 190 tp total.

This can snowball over the course of a fight. Especially if you have a brd that doesn't wanna play paeon.

[Butcherboy]

Maintaining the debuff would be less TP usage than using Aeolian.

I mean that for tank to stop applying debuff. Ninja doing the debuff is less TP used

[Viridiana]

I mean that for tank to stop applying debuff. Ninja doing the debuff is less TP used

Yeah, somehow I got really confused reading your comment and didn't realize that we were saying the same thing, sorry. @_@

Edit: Just noticed something on Ariyala's. . .can anyone with a new Zodiak weapon confirm if the minor stat caps are actually the same as the Dreadwyrm weapon despite a 10 ilvl difference?

[Best-MNK-NA]

Yeah, somehow I got really confused reading your comment and didn't realize that we were saying the same thing, sorry. @_@

Edit: Just noticed something on Ariyala's. . .can anyone with a new Zodiak weapon confirm if the minor stat caps are actually the same as the Dreadwyrm weapon despite a 10 ilvl difference?

Ariyala's is just really messed up for relic. Perfect Sasuke's is 49 crit 35 det. Got mine today!

[Gardes]

That might be why. We didnt have a full time brd. Our original was nin mnk smn blm. Now we are mnk brd smn blm. Mnk went brd and nin went mnk.

Thanks guys.

[treuhavik]

Thanks for sharing that, Leggerless! OP updated with "DoT Effects" and note on NIN/DE added.

[Ephier]

Acc/Det: 572crit(129.272)/374det(121.55)/482ss(103.63) = 354.452 Dex

Crit/Det: 567crit(128.142)/393det(127.725)/464ss(99.76) = 355.627 Dex

Those being much closer to actual "relic BIS". Crit/Det still wins.

Nevermind I see it. hyperlinks weren't showing on phone.

[Aiurily]

i got bored and did tests

2.00 GCD exactly, 30 fps video. tests in estate area, mudra speed was pretty good, about as fast as this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqutYpkQqmg)

1 mudra->ninjutsu (fuma) - 0 frames clipped, GCD goes off as soon as it's up
2 mudra->ninjutsu (raiton) - 14 frames clipped after GCD goes off CD; about 0.467s of gcd clipping
3 mudra->ninjutsu (huton) - 35 (!) frames clipped after GCD goes off cd; about 1.167s of gcd clipping

edit: over 3 mins, doing this rotation for ninjutsu would be 9.337s of GCD clipped by ninjutsu. that's assuming you get the first seal off as soon as your GCD's animation lock is over always, and that the mudra speed stays consistent throughout.

suiton>raiton>raiton>huton>
suiton>raiton>huton>
suiton>raiton>raiton>huton

if you replace the non-kassatsu raitons with fuma shuriken, you save 1.401s of gcd, losing about 129.6 potency in exchange. if you replace all of them, you save 2.335s of gcd, losing 259.2 potency or so. shoddy math warning.

[Dervy]

That'll actually help as now I have to rework the Ninja model slightly.

Can you replicate those numbers constantly, or do they change each time you do your rotation? Also, what's your latency?