Square-Enix we demand answers!

[Kuolema]

You mean aside from the bracelets that people are selling for 5-10 million gil? Do you seriously feel like buying gil is not pay to win? Can you not buy T5-9 wins, extreme primals, etc. on your server or something? Person buys a bracelet for $20, sells it for 5mil, then pays a group to get them Turn 9 win + all loots and that seems ok to you? Really?

You must be misunderstanding the issue with this. I don't have any problem with them having wedding/vanity items in the cash shop, that is not the issue. The issue is that people can trade them for gil in game which can in turn be used for literally every win or piece of gear outside of final coil.

I don't care what others do in a video game. If someone wants to do that, it is their choice. It isn't going to bring down my gaming experience any and I don't know why it is affecting yours so much. Stop worrying what others are doing and play the game for yourself. The novelty will die down on the bracelets and dyes and will be worthless in a month.

[DoctorPepper]

I don't care what others do in a video game. The novelty will die down on the bracelets and dyes and will be worthless in a month.

It doesn't matter if you care or not, you stated there is nothing that can be considered pay to win and that is simply wrong based on the fact that people are selling them in game for 5-10 million gil.

How do you know the hype will die down any time soon or that they won't add similar items to the shop that are tradeable? You don't have any viable evidence that even suggests that, just your opinion. I'm not going to pretend I have some insiders look at how things are going to go down, but don't pretend you can tell the future and call everybody wrong just because "you don't care".

Make the items untradeable and a lot less people are going to care but as long as they are tradeable then people will care and they will complain about it.

[Themis]

1) We are already paying a subscription; why are you charging us even more?

I'll say it again because it seems people still don't notice this.

Subscription entitles you to access the servers (and gives you two free retainers + character slots if you chose a certain sub type). It does not give you any access to the content at all, technically. That's what buying the game and using the registration key does. In the case of the base game, the ARR code gives you access to the 2.x content. When the expansion comes, the Heavensward code will give you access to the 3.x content. And by content, I'd personally understand that to be the story. Things like Extreme versions of primals could be considered extras, that could technically be "paid content" if SE really wanted to go that route.

Now, you may not agree with that as a business decision, but that's more how it works (much closer to the "my sub fee gives me content" which it doesn't).

Under that knowledge, items that are in the cash shop are sold separately to the content that the key gives you access to. This is known as "additional charges/servers/options". There is no restriction on what can actually be made only "paid for". That discretion lies solely with SE, and as you see they have exercised that for certain items.

If you want to see more on this, check out the User Agreement that you agreed to when you started paying your subscription.

And just so it is there in the open, I don't disapprove of the cash shop. If there is something in there that I want, I will pay for it. Unfortunately for SE, I'm not a huge minion/mount collector (though I do like to get new ones) so I haven't bought those. I do, however, pay for the extra 2 retainers and have also paid for the platinum eternal bonding wristlets (x2). And if content such as extreme versions of battles, which do not drop anything other than titles or vanity only items (lv 1 things that are simply for looks), then I'd probably buy that too. And as much as many would complain at that, those who enjoyed that kind of content would probably pay for it too (though they may no say so so openly like I have). To be honest, it'd balance out the complaints from those who consider minions/mounts to be content (which is absolutely fine by me; if that's what you find fun I have no reason to disagree).

[Sainya]

Camate said in another thread, if people keep selling them they're going to change it. it was supposed to be so you could trade it with your S.O.

[Enkrateia]

Greetings!

Since this topic is one that has been raised in other threads, I will be closing this thread so that discussion can be focused in the other threads dedicated to those issues.

LGM Enkrateia

[Vondoomervil]

for the majority of people whom demand answers.

Majority of the player base?

[ShinigamiZero]

Majority of the player base?

Based on my experience with the people I associate with on a daily basis + the sheer amount of topics on the subject. Go read them its not just mine of course.

[Vondoomervil]

Based on my experience with the people I associate with on a daily basis + the sheer amount of topics on the subject. Go read them its not just mine of course.

These forums form a very very small amount of the player base, Alot of people only come on here when they have a problem...

[DoctorPepper]

These forums form a very very small amount of the player base, Alot of people only come on here when they have a problem...

A lot of people who have a problem don't come here at all as well so you don't speak for the people anymore than the OP or anybody else does.

So far every friend I talk to in this game is pissed off about the countless players in PF selling bracelets for 5-10 million gil. At 10 million gil people are getting gil at half price ($2 per million) and at 5 million they are paying the same price that I see advertised constantly in game.

[Cadmar]

In case you missed the intent on the thread by not reading it properly.. the intent is to create awareness to the point where its everywhere and cannot be ignored.

Yeah... I think they get it by now. It's all that has been here for the past week or so. At this point it is just an annoyance to everyone else. "Demanding" a response is kinda laughable actually.