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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    SE please nuke forums. It's been a mistake :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    do you think there would be an auto market if you could go off and just go to a place that gives away free cars? no, you would just go get a free car. you would never buy one if you could get something better for free. why buy a ford when you can go get a mercedes given to you at no cost?

    do you think there would be a health care system if you got free treatment given to everyone? you would never go pay a doctor or pay for meds if you were given them for free without any drawbacks.

    do you think the housing market would exist if you could pick out the your dream home and then go get another that is even better for free? no you would take the upgrade you got for free.

    you use these examples of doing everything yourself, but why not go and pull up your server and tell me how many have every craft to cap in it. there's not going to be many. the truth is no matter how many can make anything you are not going to sell anything if they can get a better item for free. that is in real or a game economy.

    how can you figure a weapon and gear that is as good if not better than anything made for mid and high range for all battle classes is only a few items?
    Personally I think comparing a video game economy to real life is genius, although there really isn't much of an auto market, health care industry or housing market.

    Oh, wait, I take back the genius comment.
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    It would make no sense to me if they do end up doing this, since so many crafts are dependent on other crafts. For example, as an archer who loves to make her own arrows, I have to utilize carpentry, goldsmithing, blacksmithing, weaving, and alchemy. Making any gear involves not just, say, weaving, but leatherworking and armorcraft as well. For this reason I doubt you'll be limited to doing just one craft, but I can see SE added some sort game material that will allow you to only "master" one (or a limited number) of crafts, as Griss says. Personally, I think this would add much more value to what a person selects to "master", whatever that may end up meaning. I hope it ends up being something like getting a relic in FFXI.
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    .....Miqokini, I think it's best that you make your OP much bolder in terms of WHAT answer you have been given. That way, people will actually know that the rumour is false, and that it's not even being looked into, and is just a suggestion.

    I repeat, for those who refuse to even browse through the pages to understand what has been said (or not) about this topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by whoopeeragon View Post
    Translation from Reinheart's topic:

    "Famitsu: Currently you can make all crafting class to rank 50 but later are you planning where you can only master one class only?

    Matsui: It doesn’t mean the plan isn’t there but overall this isn’t being looked into yet.

    Iwao: It’s certain we don’t want to make it all mighty?

    Matsui: We’re also planning major changes to the crafter so first we have to make the ground work.

    Yoshida: First we have to build strong foundation or even if we put something on top it’s just going to break. Making changes to recipe or making it feel good that you did crafter class. Also by adding material craft content being added sharpening the crafters."

    It's only a PLAN. And it's not even being looked into yet. So its safe for now, I can assume. If they do decide to limit our 'master' crafting class, then it'll be after the cap-increase on the ranks.
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    [QUOTE=darkstarpoet1;291847]do you think there would be an auto market if you could go off and just go to a place that gives away free cars? no, you would just go get a free car. you would never buy one if you could get something better for free. why buy a ford when you can go get a mercedes given to you at no cost?

    do you think there would be a health care system if you got free treatment given to everyone? you would never go pay a doctor or pay for meds if you were given them for free without any drawbacks.

    do you think the housing market would exist if you could pick out the your dream home and then go get another that is even better for free? no you would take the upgrade you got for free.

    lol sure, you know that what you are saying is Utopian right? even a world w\o violence and wars would be great.....
    I'm sure you know why, a system like that couldnt last....


    It seems that you are pissed about the seer's, maybe because you are weaver, but immagine SE will give us a new 30's mage set (thats not so unlikely), that is stronger then the seer's.... every weaver would get a profit, or at least try to do some money from it....

    but if all of us were weavers.... then that new item would give, to the game economy, the same problem of the seer's.

    If SE want that, why not eliminate the market... and let us sell and buy only from NPC like an offline game.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raze View Post
    Personally I think comparing a video game economy to real life is genius, although there really isn't much of an auto market, health care industry or housing market.

    Oh, wait, I take back the genius comment.
    what another personal troll attack from you as normal. why is it not suprising coming from you? i'm NOT the one that brought up the real world market into the conversation. i just responded to another post that did, but feel free to troll away as much as you want.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    lol sure, you know that what you are saying is Utopian right? even a world w\o violence and wars would be great.....
    I'm sure you know why, a system like that couldnt last....


    It seems that you are pissed about the seer's, maybe because you are weaver, but immagine SE will give us a new 30's mage set (thats not so unlikely), that is stronger then the seer's.... every weaver would get a profit, or at least try to do some money from it....

    but if all of us were weavers.... then that new item would give, to the game economy, the same problem of the seer's.

    If SE want that, why not eliminate the market... and let us sell and buy only from NPC like an offline game.....

    you're right that is utopian society and would never work. it's what they are trying to make work here though and as we see in the in game economy it doesn't work even in a game either.

    i used the seer's as an example because it is a r30 piece of gear. even with class mastery all people with weaver ranked now would still be able to make the r30 gear. in other words, mastery would not solve the issue at all.

    you say it would give the same problem as the seer's if every weaver could make it. i don't think being able to buy and sell an item is anywhere near the same problem as getting an item that you cannot make, buy, or sell. remember those items are unique and untradable. the unique and untradable items are what hurts the economy because when it comes into the market it can never be sold.
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    Last edited by darkstarpoet1; 08-16-2011 at 12:11 AM.


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