Is it true?

[Drex]

why should you buy something when you can get a better item premade off a mob? that, in itself, is the true destruction of the economy along with there not being many people playing.

look at the seer's cowl for an example. do you think this item may have made things tougher for the 30 level crafters to sell items? it's one of the better items in the game and you get it for free by fighting a mob. this is worse for the game than any one person having all crafts leveled. of course nobody has problems with them because it's free gear for the non crafters and they don't have to buy something.

None have problem with that because there are few untradeable items, immagine that 90% of the good items were untradeable... i think "someone" would disagree.

On topic, why should I craft (work), gears and items and try to sell them(make profit), when everyone can make those items? obviously none would buy them .....

If we were able to: adjust cars, cure health problems, make all things you need to live your life (foods, houses, cars etc....) do you think a society would exist?... its kinda a phylosophycal thought... but you can applicate it, even to a game.

English, sadly is not my language, so I apologize for my grammar, but i think youll get the point.

[darkstarpoet1]

If we were able to: adjust cars, cure health problems, make all things you need to live your life (foods, houses, cars etc....) do you think a society would exist?... its kinda a phylosophycal thought... but you can applicate it, even to a game.

do you think there would be an auto market if you could go off and just go to a place that gives away free cars? no, you would just go get a free car. you would never buy one if you could get something better for free. why buy a ford when you can go get a mercedes given to you at no cost?

do you think there would be a health care system if you got free treatment given to everyone? you would never go pay a doctor or pay for meds if you were given them for free without any drawbacks.

do you think the housing market would exist if you could pick out the your dream home and then go get another that is even better for free? no you would take the upgrade you got for free.

you use these examples of doing everything yourself, but why not go and pull up your server and tell me how many have every craft to cap in it. there's not going to be many. the truth is no matter how many can make anything you are not going to sell anything if they can get a better item for free. that is in real or a game economy.

how can you figure a weapon and gear that is as good if not better than anything made for mid and high range for all battle classes is only a few items?

[Raze]

do you think there would be an auto market if you could go off and just go to a place that gives away free cars? no, you would just go get a free car. you would never buy one if you could get something better for free. why buy a ford when you can go get a mercedes given to you at no cost?

do you think there would be a health care system if you got free treatment given to everyone? you would never go pay a doctor or pay for meds if you were given them for free without any drawbacks.

do you think the housing market would exist if you could pick out the your dream home and then go get another that is even better for free? no you would take the upgrade you got for free.

you use these examples of doing everything yourself, but why not go and pull up your server and tell me how many have every craft to cap in it. there's not going to be many. the truth is no matter how many can make anything you are not going to sell anything if they can get a better item for free. that is in real or a game economy.

how can you figure a weapon and gear that is as good if not better than anything made for mid and high range for all battle classes is only a few items?

Personally I think comparing a video game economy to real life is genius, although there really isn't much of an auto market, health care industry or housing market.

Oh, wait, I take back the genius comment.

[darkstarpoet1]

Personally I think comparing a video game economy to real life is genius, although there really isn't much of an auto market, health care industry or housing market.

Oh, wait, I take back the genius comment.

what another personal troll attack from you as normal. why is it not suprising coming from you? i'm NOT the one that brought up the real world market into the conversation. i just responded to another post that did, but feel free to troll away as much as you want.

lol sure, you know that what you are saying is Utopian right? even a world w\o violence and wars would be great.....
I'm sure you know why, a system like that couldnt last....


It seems that you are pissed about the seer's, maybe because you are weaver, but immagine SE will give us a new 30's mage set (thats not so unlikely), that is stronger then the seer's.... every weaver would get a profit, or at least try to do some money from it....

but if all of us were weavers.... then that new item would give, to the game economy, the same problem of the seer's.

If SE want that, why not eliminate the market... and let us sell and buy only from NPC like an offline game.....

you're right that is utopian society and would never work. it's what they are trying to make work here though and as we see in the in game economy it doesn't work even in a game either.

i used the seer's as an example because it is a r30 piece of gear. even with class mastery all people with weaver ranked now would still be able to make the r30 gear. in other words, mastery would not solve the issue at all.

you say it would give the same problem as the seer's if every weaver could make it. i don't think being able to buy and sell an item is anywhere near the same problem as getting an item that you cannot make, buy, or sell. remember those items are unique and untradable. the unique and untradable items are what hurts the economy because when it comes into the market it can never be sold.

[Drex]

[QUOTE=darkstarpoet1;291847]do you think there would be an auto market if you could go off and just go to a place that gives away free cars? no, you would just go get a free car. you would never buy one if you could get something better for free. why buy a ford when you can go get a mercedes given to you at no cost?

do you think there would be a health care system if you got free treatment given to everyone? you would never go pay a doctor or pay for meds if you were given them for free without any drawbacks.

do you think the housing market would exist if you could pick out the your dream home and then go get another that is even better for free? no you would take the upgrade you got for free.

lol sure, you know that what you are saying is Utopian right? even a world w\o violence and wars would be great.....
I'm sure you know why, a system like that couldnt last....


It seems that you are pissed about the seer's, maybe because you are weaver, but immagine SE will give us a new 30's mage set (thats not so unlikely), that is stronger then the seer's.... every weaver would get a profit, or at least try to do some money from it....

but if all of us were weavers.... then that new item would give, to the game economy, the same problem of the seer's.

If SE want that, why not eliminate the market... and let us sell and buy only from NPC like an offline game.....