I really didn't understand the issue.

[Eissels]

I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I digress.

The eternal bond wedding bands being sell-able caused a huge muck on the forums, and I'm not really sure why. Now, before you jump down my throat, I didn't buy them nor did I intend to buy them, because I wasn't going to spend $20 on half of a video game wedding. I was, however, kind of rolling around throwing a couple million gil at it.

A lot of people accused SE of selling gil, but that's not true. No more gil was put into the economy than there would have been without it, it simply moved it around. It also opened up the avenue of people who couldn't or wouldn't buy the bracelet through the gift shop to buy the bracelet with gil as a way to experience their wedding without shelling over $20.

So... I don't really understand the issue. New gil wasn't being put directly into the game, and it let people subvert the cash shop. I mean, I guess you could argue that it made it convenient to make money, but I've got maybe two months of game time since the game's been released and I already have about six million gil. Not a great feat, by any stretch, but I've never been found wanting for gil and I've never seen it as difficult to obtain if you had the ambition.

Where was the harm in it? It wasn't cutting into your profits, or preventing you from getting the bracelet. It actually made it easier to get it. Why take away that option?

[Squintina]

Many of the threads you're talking about had people explaining what they felt was the harm in it. Just go read them? They're not going to post anything different than what they wrote in those.

[Eissels]

Many of the threads you're talking about had people explaining what they felt was the harm in it. Just go read them? They're not going to post anything different than what they wrote in those.

I didn't see any reasoning but "SE is selling gil and this feels greedy to me."

No one actually brought up reasons how it hurt the economy, they just accused SE and the people selling the bracelets of being greedy or lazy.

[Ampheni]

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Because this potentially become a method to turn the game into a pay to win situation.

Now, if you think about it, what does gil can currently do?

You can buy crafted gears, food etc etc with them right?
Now let's say someone have a large amount of real world money, but they spend little efforts in this game, with this item can be bought from a cash shop and be sold to another players for gil, he now have a new way to gain a large amount of gil without putting in a lot of efforts, by spending real world money.

With these gil he earned, he can buy high level crafted gears, super rare materias with minimal efforts, as long as he have the real life money to spend.

This could potentially makes the in game economy affected by the real world's economy, and this leaves the players who is not willing to pay extra real life money yet put in a lot of in game efforts a bitter taste that people who are richer can always have the upper-hand in-game.

[Squintina]

I didn't see any reasoning but "SE is selling gil and this feels greedy to me."

No one actually brought up reasons how it hurt the economy, they just accused SE and the people selling the bracelets of being greedy or lazy.

Then you either didn't read, or you read selectively because I've seen a bunch of reasons beyond just "SE and the people selling the bracelets are greedy or lazy". Go read again.

[Zephyranthes]

Many of the threads you're talking about had people explaining what they felt was the harm in it. Just go read them? They're not going to post anything different than what they wrote in those.

This. No need to create a new thread. This is getting redundant.

[Nephera]

This is essentially how I feel atm.

I've got the money for a sub but i aint really got more than that to throw around right now, so having the option to buy the thing for gil is nice.


edit: additionally people who are going to buy gil are going to buy gil or at least fork over their money with the promise of gil. I'd much rather the money go to square enix than some of the shady things i've heard gold auctioneers end up putting the money towards.

[Roris]

Well glorious SE considers it an issue or else they wouldn't be performing a maintenance to presumably fix it, though I wouldn't be surprised if the maintenance didn't address it.

[Taika]

It's because it allows players to get in game advantage for using real money (they gain a lot of gil by buying the items from cash shop and then selling them to others).

[TurnBased]

Because people are spending $20 to make 6-10 million gil.

FFXIV is a Pay to Play game. If you want to be rich in-game, you need to do it with in-game effort. You craft, spiritbond, play the Market Board, desynth items, gather stuff on your botanist etc. All things achieved with in-game effort.

My wife and I have been saving up for a medium sized house. If sales are good, we can manage 2m a week. A slow process, but we'll get there. Now, someone in my server was able to buy a house with the money he made selling Platinum Bracelets.


Now, I see this and I think... What the f am I doing crafting? What took me weeks to do, someone was able to do overnight because of a cash shop item. F this, I'm not going to craft anymore. I'll jump on the bandwagon and just sell bracelets, and whatever cash shop item SE introduces in the future.

When this happens, and more people start to think like this, then no one will craft. No one will bother to gather materials. They'll just make money selling cash shop items. An integral part of FFXIV's content will be destroyed.