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  1. #31
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    Vondoomervil's Avatar
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    Von Doomervil
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    Tonberry
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    Samurai Lv 70
    I only got the on the US servers. After transferring to Tonberry it has been great, and everyone is alot more respectful. Must be an North American/English thing...No offense
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  2. #32
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    Hyunckel's Avatar
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    Hyunckel Xanadu
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 52
    Welcome to the Internet, a wonderful place where beginners are frowned upon.
    There is a wonderful thing called "guides" with which you can know the basics about each dungeon to know what to expect and not fail (or less at least) ^_^

    As in every online community, MMORPG attracts selfish people wanting to be a special snowflake with the latest cool gear, and as they go through low level dungeons via the Duty Roulette, they expect to get it done as fast as possible, while possibly never having to talk or to explain mechanics (even if you're new)

    I went through the pain of reading guides and watching videos prior to any new dungeon / trial / raid I went in, and got no problem.
    I did get a couple of wipes by my fault, as I'm the tank, because I didn't have the experience and committed mistakes. Out of +100 runs. People were comprehensive.

    When it was people who acted like complete entitled jerks with no respect and/or insulting for a simple mistake, they got group kicked

    But it's better to be self sufficient by reading guides prior to entering the dungeon than expecting people to carry you.

    Especially if you're a dps with 30 min queue time, you got the time to google that crap
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  3. #33
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    Anemone_Valesti's Avatar
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    Hitman Hohenheim
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    Explaining the content is fine and dandy, except it gets annoying when you need to do it for every single run you go on because of a new player who is either a brainless zombie tunnel-visioning idiot, someone who just doesn't care, and then the person who simply lacks the skill to even do the mechanics.

    If you're new, and sane enough to play this game well, then do some research. You're not the first person to play this game. You don't need to reinvent the wheel.
    No....just No lol. Often times New comes with not knowing what is common Practice Bro. It wasn't until a few wipes on an EX that I learned watching Videos was a thing out of thinking to myself " There has got to be some kind of easier way to doing this ". Being new and having not experienced the difficulty...chances are that wont come to mind. Even then I didn't know that it was something that was common Practice among raiding until seeing it often in Party Finder Descriptions.

    Thanks for Proving the OP point though. At the risk of coming down to that level...I got to say that watching a Guide of someone else (Who crazy enough, is most likely doing it without a guide) before even TRYING it a few times is the Brainless thing to do, and expecting the new to do so is just bad lol.

    Sadly I watch guides before doing SOME of the stuff in this game (To Avoid Players Crap), and FOR ME Its not satisfying upon completing it. Did Shiva the other day though...got my face blown off by one of Shiva's attacks. I adapt so it only took 1 Wipe to down her...but boy did it feel good with beating her without some dude in a video telling me all her attacks, and where to stand exactly as if I couldn't put it together myself...

    Point is, Expecting NEW Players to play content as if they have been playing it for X amount of time is some really Foolish Bleep.
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    Last edited by Anemone_Valesti; 12-12-2014 at 05:32 AM.

  4. #34
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    DSN's Avatar
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    Squishy Pants
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The problem is exasperated here as you are required to run the same content over and over non stop and just when you think you are done they add some quest to make you farm old content and a lot of us are just burnt out. That being said I do explain boss fights where required if I see the notice of a new player.

    While on this topic however I can't tell you how many times I get the new player notification and no one says anything, if your new say so some of us are willing to help if we know you are actually new and not an alt.
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    Last edited by DSN; 12-12-2014 at 05:41 AM.

  5. #35
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DSN View Post
    The problem is exasperated here as you are required to run the same content over and over non stop and just when you think you are done they add some quest to make you farm old content and a lot of us are just burnt out.
    Why is it required?
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  6. #36
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    Squishy Pants
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Why is it required?
    Tomes for gear (You)
    Tomes for gear (retainers)
    Tomes to get items to get your initial relic weapon
    Tomes for weapon upgrades
    Tomes for Alex Maps
    Daily Roulette Expert for Alex Map
    Doing Books for Relic upgrade Quests
    Farming Light for Relic upgrade Quests
    Farming Items for Relic upgrade Quests
    Items for Desynthesis / Crafting Materials
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  7. #37
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    N'ico Yazawa
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    Twintania
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    Arcanist Lv 74
    I do my dailies every day and frequently run a lot of older content just for fun and I don't find myself needing to explain anything at all it's REALLY rare when an explanation is needed. I mean if you find yourself in a situation where certain dungeons are full of explanation needs setup a macro with the explanation :P
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  8. #38
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by DSN View Post
    Tomes for gear (You)
    Tomes for gear (retainers)
    Tomes to get items to get your initial relic weapon
    Tomes for weapon upgrades
    Tomes for Alex Maps
    Daily Roulette Expert for Alex Map
    Doing Books for Relic upgrade Quests
    Farming Light for Relic upgrade Quests
    Farming Items for Relic upgrade Quests
    Items for Desynthesis / Crafting Materials
    So all that stuff just to be the baddest coolest kid on the block? Not really required, more like optional.
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  9. #39
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    ChibiChan_Hyperion's Avatar
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    Chibi Chan
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by DSN View Post
    While on this topic however I can't tell you how many times I get the new player notification and no one says anything, if your new say so some of us are willing to help if we know you are actually new and not an alt.
    If I see the message, I'll just explain things anyway. Doesn't take but a few seconds, and they might pipe up in response as well.
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  10. #40
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    Squishy Pants
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    So all that stuff just to be the baddest coolest kid on the block? Not really required, more like optional.
    This does not make you the baddest coolest kid on the block by far ....
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