I am Pro-Cash Shop

[finalthief]

I don't see what the big deal is with the cash shop hate. The way I see it, these cosmetic items has no impact on end-game what-so-ever. If it helps S-E produce more content for FFXIV with expansions or free content (which is not free because we pay for their salaries with our subs and now with cash shop to keep them working and making more content) then I am all for it.

I think what people need is a alternate way to these items from the cash shop and I would like for S-E to consider adding them to the Veterans Reward at some point into the future. That way it is a reward for long time players. That way this will take care of two things, 1) The item will be in-game for veterans after some time. 2) If there are new players and they want these items in advance then they can use the cash shop to purchase them.

I know this isn't the best solution but it is better than complaining without providing a decent solution. If you support the cash shop, show your support in this thread.

[Israacf]

I am as well, have probably spent way too much but I like the option of it being there, I mostly play this game for the cosmetic, so better for me!

[Alberel]

How do you now the cash shop supports the development of future content though? Just because they said so? They've said a lot of things that have been proven untrue now so I wouldn't put much faith in trusting what they say...

The more likely reality is that all income from the cash shop will just go into developing more cash shop stuff to sell (read: cutting pre-existing content to sell at a premium).

[Verlyn]

I have no horse in the cash shop race, but I think everyone is going utterly crazy over the cash shop and everything involved. They need to chill out.
At least a third of the topics on the front page as of this post are cesspools of cash shop negativity. This topic will probably become one as well. Just a matter of time until someone argumentative shows up and sends it in that direction.
Not a whole lot of fun to post in that environment. It'd be one thing if it were an uproar over a serious game issue, but this? Meh.

[abzoluut]

so better for me!

This pretty much sums up a huge group of people. "I like it, so it's good."

This mentality can be found whenever a group of people need to spend time together be it in your football team or in a game. I don't need to explain why this mindset shows a lack of empathy.

SE needs to understand that there are different approaches to the game. Some like "progression" content, some like minions, some like glamour, some like crafting. Of course these overlap but there is always a favourite one. There will always be a group not happy with X item in the €ash $hop. They'll get over it.

It will be fine as long as SE is clear about their idea of it. Golden Saucer will be the next thing people will flame about should it be connected to said shop. Let people know in advance: transparency.

[Nashred]

This pretty much sums up a huge group of people. "I like it, so it's good."

This mentality can be found whenever a group of people need to spend time together be it in your football team or in a game. I don't need to explain why this mindset shows a lack of empathy.

SE needs to understand that there are different approaches to the game. Some like "progression" content, some like minions, some like glamour, some like crafting. Of course these overlap but there is always a favourite one. There will always be a group not happy with X item in the €ash $hop. They'll get over it.

It will be fine as long as SE is clear about their idea of it. Golden Saucer will be the next thing people will flame about should it be connected to said shop. Let people know in advance: transparency.

Yep not everyone plays the game the same and before FFXIV was launched they said there were going to be many ways to play this game other than just combat. (not everyone does end game) Some people collect minions so putting them in the cash shop hurts the way they play the game, Some people collect mounts.. Just because the stuff put in the cash shop doesn't affect the way you get through coil doesn't mean it does not affect the way others play the game? Some people like to craft and do vanity stuff. Putting that stuff in the store with other loot hurts the way they play the game. Why do people do coil? for the loot. Same thing.
All I am saying is people play the game for different reasons not just combat.. Some are just craters and if that stuff ends up in the cash shop it is pay to play or win for them.
Same people who think CS is good would you pay a higher sub fee then? It would help the game out right? It is very short sited to think just because the cash shop does not effect the way you play the game it doesn't effect others

[Nalien]

I think what people need is a alternate way to these items from the cash shop

So does virtually everyone who is against the cash shop...

Best solution is just to make cash shop items "expensive" Gold Saucer rewards as well; Grind 50,000 Moogle Tickets from minigames, or pay $15 on Mog Station. That works for everyone, I think. I'd still be fairly disappointed, since I'd much rather see the minions come from Delivery Mog quests related to their respective Scion, and Sleipnir actually involve Odin (not saying Sleipnir Barding is impressive, but "I farmed the Odin FATE for this Barding" is more impressive than "I payed $15 online"). That's the kind of potential the cash shop throws out for extra profits, and that's why I dislike it so much. I cannot comprehend why anyone would rather just pay for a minion, instead of having it rewarded for playing the game in some fashion... Laziness? Sure, but there really needs to be an alternative that requires "effort" in order for the cash shop to be the lazy mans way. Honestly, if we have to have a cash shop, I'd much rather have just seen rare vanity fluff like Primal Ponies put in it. Having exclusive content in it is unacceptable to me...

[Artiste]

We call that a "pigeon" in French, it's a kind of bird, not a "pro-cashshop".

[Monty]

Doesn't affect end-game, the only thing to do in this game. Well that ends that argument. Forget about all the roleplayers, heavy crafters, people who just enjoy the vanity system. End-game is the only thing that needs to be considered. (This is coming from someone who really only plays for gear and end-game...or at least tries to. I don't give two flying sheep about vanity stuff, but it's still stupid.).

[Kaeda_Valentyne]

I don't think that veteran rewards are the way to go about it either. Some people would end up with 2 and be selling them in PF , we would be back to square one.

I think the golden saucer is a much better idea you get to earn what you want with what ever token they introduce when its released. I also don't think the cash shop items should be tradeable in game if you want to gift someone something it should be handled through the Mog station & the Moogle mail.

As for pro cash shop I'm not pro this one as it sits. I don't like the exclusive items.
I have been vocal in the anti cash shop threads and alot of the time all they contain is
It doesn't effect me so I don't care
I want that stuff but have no extra money
Poor scrub get a better job
I want it to get closed
Selfish you want everything free, to bad TOS
your stupid!!!!
and a whole bunch more of the same exact back and forth attacks. AKA a bunch of BS.
Granted there are a few people who want to actually have conversation about it and how to come to an agreement, but that just gets lost in the crud.