Stoneskin II

[juniglee]

Let the PLD do it ^^ Shields for the same.

Please let Paladin have Stoneskin II too then ^^" Not like we have many choices of cross-class skills anyway, I'd take it!

[Ghishlain]

It actually is pretty amazing how many people are mis-interpretting the request @.@

WHM having AoE Stoneskin isn't game-breaking - it's a convenience
SCH gettings the same AoE Stoneskin isn't game breaking either - it's a convenience in content where you may not have a WHM partner there (DF'd Primals / ST / CT / Coil )

Would it be nice for SCHs to get an AoE Stoneskin? Yes
Is it necessary? No.
Would SCHs getting AoE Stoneskin take away from WHMs? Nope, because the ability of Stoneskin II was designed to be a QoL convenience.

SCHs getting the same ability to stoneskin the entire party before a boss pull in any DFable 8-man / 4 man isn't going to make them suddenly significantly more desirable then a WHM. It just means you won't need to wait as long to buff people.

That's... all.

[Saseal]

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[File2ish]

I'm not against SCH getting SSII as a cross class, but I'd prefer SSII to remain CNJ/WHM specific since they made SSII a level 50 CNJ ability. (To note, I play both WHM and SCH).

SSII is, as many have already said, was a skill given for WHM convenience just to shave off 30 seconds of casting before a battle starts. The way I see it is just because WHM gets it doesn't automatically mean SCH should. It would certainly be helpful for SCH to get an extra 10% health shield up on everyone with one button before the start of battle, but I don't see this as being a justifiable reason for SCH to get a 2nd tier version of a CNJ spell gained at level 50.

[SulwynCaliope]

I'm not against SCH getting SSII as a cross class, but I'd prefer SSII to remain CNJ/WHM specific since they made SSII a level 50 CNJ ability. (To note, I play both WHM and SCH).

SSII is, as many have already said, was a skill given for WHM convenience just to shave off 30 seconds of casting before a battle starts. The way I see it is just because WHM gets it doesn't automatically mean SCH should. It would certainly be helpful for SCH to get an extra 10% health shield up on people before the start of battle, but I don't see this as being a justifiable reason for SCH to get a 2nd tier version of a CNJ spell gained at level 50.

I'm not asking for the 18% version. I merely want our 10% version. Trust me, I'd be livid if SE went ahead and gave us the 18% of the skill. That, I would argue, would cause imbalances between the two classes. An AoE version of what we have now that can only be used out of battle is all I'm asking for.

[File2ish]

I'm not asking for the 18% version. I merely want our 10% version. Trust me, I'd be livid if SE went ahead and gave us the 18% of the skill. That, I would argue, would cause imbalances between the two classes. An AoE version of what we have now that can only be used out of battle is all I'm asking for.

I never said anything about getting Graniteskin on SCH, no idea where you got that from.

Stoneskin II is an ability for CNJ gained at level 50. Graniteskin is a trait.

EDIT: Maybe you saw "second tier" and thought I meant Graniteskin. By "second tier" I meant Stoneskin II; like Cure II, Medica II, etc.

[Sagittarian]

I never said anything about getting Graniteskin on SCH, no idea where you got that from.

Stoneskin II is an ability for CNJ at level 50. Graniteskin is a trait.

EDIT: Maybe you saw "second tier" and thought I meant Graniteskin. By "second tier" I meant Stoneskin II; like Cure II, Medica II, etc.

Stoneskin 2 specifically gives 18%. It is not affected by the Graniteskin trait. So if the skill itself could be cross-classed it would carry the 18% with it. That's the source of the confusion.

[File2ish]

Stoneskin 2 specifically gives 18%. It is not affected by the Graniteskin trait. So if the skill itself could be cross-classed it would carry the 18% with it. That's the source of the confusion.

Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Seidaku]

SSII because of the increased cast time was meant to have more effect on raid situations. Not saying that double scholar in this situations is not a valid option but it should in most cases have a whm present to deal with the stone skin. So I am one of those people who play both classes quite a bit and would care less if they gave me the cross class ability or possibly saved it for when the level cap increases.

[Evangela]

lolwat? SSII is just for pre-pull buff. It's the same as SSI except it saves WHM times to recast it for every pt members. It doesn't make WHM better than SCH in battle.