Stoneskin II

[Lavieh]

I'm calling SE out on their mishandling of this. What's wrong with that? Or should we just allow SE to implement things in a half assed manner and let it slide because "oh there's more important things to worry about." WHMs fought hard to have this QoL change and were rightly rewarded for their efforts. Why can't SCHs do the same? Because somehow us having the same thing is less worth it?

I just don't understand how SE mishandled this? Stoneskin has always been a CNJ skill, they even get a trait. SCH's just borrow it but it was never theirs. SCH's have had access to Succor since the beginning, I'm sure every WHM would like a skill like Succor, or a big shield to put on the tank like Adlo. There is a lot of QoL things that SCH has that WHM doesnt, that I'm sure every WHM would want but the fact is they are different classes with different skills. This concept is so simple and easy to understand yet you don't really seem to grasp it.

[SulwynCaliope]

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What you're not grasping is that the SCH skills you're talking about are NOT QoL. Quality of Life means that gameplay itself is not affected and it only adds to convenience. How does giving WHMs integral skills of the SCH arsenal not affect game balance? Or do you want versions of succor, aetherflow etc that do nothing in battle? Sure you can have them. Succor lasts 30 seconds and doesn't last long enough to shield most damage on the party so it's pretty useless as a pre shield. Aetherflow is a CORE part of the SCH design. We don't just use it for mana regen and tbh, the mana regen on it for me isn't even the main reason why I refresh it every minute. I refresh it every minute to use up stacks on sacred soil IN BATTLE etc. How would that not be balance breaking? I'm asking for a skill that lets me shave off maybe 10 SECONDS before battle on a full party. How does that even equate to what you're asking for?

Edit: Would you be happy if I said you could have a non game breaking version of any of our SCH skills if WHMs really wanted them? By non game breaking I mean, can only be used out of battle and only serves to better your life in a very small, small way.