Stoneskin II

[Nyalia]

I don't know about your data center but in mine, tanks NEVER buff the party. Some probably have even forgotten that they have protect and SS cross classed. I've always buffed the party on my own because that's part of my job.

I will give you fairy skills might be an extension of our job skills. But Sic, Place, Heel, Obey, Steady, Stay, Guard, and Away? Really? So our fairies should just cast heals and skills stupidly while we have no control over them? That made me facepalm because clearly you have no idea how SCHs heal. And I'm not saying that SSII isn't an extension of SS. Do you agree though that it's also a pretty useless extension of SS in battle? It's ONLY purpose is to speed up the buffing process out of battle which SCHs do partake in too.

Yeah, and I've seen SCHs on my datacenter who heal without a fairy at all. That doesn't say a thing about SCH/WHM balance, only that some people are morons.

To clarify, I'm not saying that SCH is superior to WHM at all, nor that WHM is superior to SCH. They're both useful, and the best parties, to me, are the ones with both an SCH and a WHM. All I'm saying is that SS2 does not change the SCH/WHM balance, and lacking SS2 does not necessarily slow down non-WHM pre-fight buffing speed (providing your PLDs/fellow SCHs aren't morons).

The point about the number of skills thing - there are people on this thread and others who keep saying that you can't give WHM a new skill without giving SCH a new skill, like there's some kind of rule. I'm saying that clearly there isn't, since if you count each action as a separate skill, SCHs clearly have more actions than WHMs. Unless you're saying you never use "place" in a fight? Or "obey?" Or "embrace?" Those are all actions that are used. If you count SS and SSII as different actions, why do you not count "whispering dawn" and "embrace (eos)" as separate actions both available to an SCH?

Honestly, comparing number of actions is stupid and meaningless. The above illustrates why I feel this way.