Stoneskin II

[Zarzak]

This means that there'll be LOADS of times where an instance is being healed by a double scholar combo.

I'm not sure what these loads of times are you speak of. Unless you think you need stoneskin to do outdated content.

Should they have gotten it? Sure it makes sense. But saying its necessary is a gross overstatement.

[SulwynCaliope]

I'm not sure what these loads of times are you speak of. Unless you think you need stoneskin to do outdated content.

Should they have gotten it? Sure it makes sense. But saying its necessary is a gross overstatement.

Can you please read the whole thread before responding? :/ I've already said many times that I know it's not necessary. Your response doesn't even match what this thread is about. Following your logic, should WHMs have gotten SSII? It's not exactly necessary.

[Lemuria]

Can you please read the whole thread before responding? :/ I've already said many times that I know it's not necessary. Your response doesn't even match what this thread is about. Following your logic, should WHMs have gotten SSII? It's not exactly necessary.

Necessary, no. However in White Mage's case it both makes sense AND serves a utility purpose. WHM stoneskin, as you've rightly noted is 18% which is not an insignificant amount of damage reduction. Thus, having it on WHM both saves time AND serves a useful purpose.

Scholar getting Stoneskin II would be silly. Firstly, Scholar doesn't even get SS1 by default, they have to cross-class it. Having tier 2 of a spell they don't even get tier 1 of is just ridiculous. Secondly, the measly offerings gained by a 10% stoneskin you can only cat outside of combat don't justify wasting a cross class slot on it.

[Lexxuk]

Following the OP's logic, 90% of the game can be cleared without a scholar too.

No, 90% of the content can be cleared without a WHM which means that 10% of the content can *only* be cleared with a WHM which means that 100% of the game can be cleared without a SCH.

[Mirakell]

I'm not alone I too was a little upset that it wasn't cross class. Now when your in DF for primals ect and theres two scholars, people seems even more impatient when awaiting stone skin casts -.-

[Millerna]

You already have a fairy doing the healing for you, you have plenty time for casting single target stoneskin

[SulwynCaliope]

You already have a fairy doing the healing for you, you have plenty time for casting single target stoneskin

Before the fight has even begun? Because SSII doesn't even work in combat.

[CUTS3R]

I can't think of a single reason for WHMs to have SSII but not SCHs.

Because us WHMs are the owners of the original SS, it makes sense we get to have the "best" one.
That said, I'd gladly lend you my SS2 in exchange of your succor though. Theres no reason you would now have access to all 3 pre-engagement Aoe shields and not WHM, right ?


Don't take my post too seriously im half joking.

[Leigaon]

If you want..you can have stoneskin II..it's not really used that much by me. Half the time during normal dungeon runs people are kept up on it no problem through the duration. CT/ST? Waiting for everyone to gather I'll get it off sometimes but then you got someone who just pulls, player who sits with another team I end up using solo stoneskin anyways on some people. Even in dungeons they end up running away or theres that one guy who is "Viewing Cutscene" taking a bit too long where it's just easier to either hit SS2 everyone then use a single on him or using single target is such second nature to me that I just use it.

Then there's the tank who sees me casting doesn't want to wait, casts his on himself and runs off missing mine..not as big of a QoL change as I thought it would be.

[Mirakell]

You already have a fairy doing the healing for you, you have plenty time for casting single target stoneskin

We don't want it for in combat - after all you can't use it in battle and succor is there - all thats being said is us Scholar's should also be able to press the one button to give people stone skin before the fight! Just like whm's can >.< It was a quality of life change after all.