How is your new zodiak drop rates so far?

[Velox]

just for the record, I own a Lilith Rod, a Yoichi Bow and a Ragnarok.

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You were able to get 3 weapons in the time it took me to get 1 even though I did equal (and more in some cases) work for it. Pray tell me how that's fair? It's not, and that's what Windklinge is trying to say. RNG creates scenarios where one person gets everything handed to them on a silver platter while someone else has to shed blood, sweat, tears, time, and mountains of cash for the same reward. That's why RNG like this needs to be done away with.

The light farming portion, along with the first quest and the animus books were the best and fairest portions of the quest because they didn't rely on RNG, which automatically means everyone has exactly the same odds and has to put in the exact same amount of work into it.

[Purrfectstorm]

MMOs have always had heavy RNG elements and the relic questline is not the only place where RNG is present in FFXIV either. Whether you're running primals for drops or raids/dungeons for gear, you're hoping for something you need to drop (not guaranteed) AND you have to win the roll on it. Crafting is RNG, desynthesis is RNG.

I wish people would quit complaining about the RNG of the relic questline. Do it or don't, it's your choice. SE will almost for sure increase drop rates later on. Worse drop rates are the price you pay for getting something right now (that is better than trying to get a drop from doing hard content, Shiva EX, Coil, etc).

From what I've seen the drop rates for relic items are around 1 in 5 which means you're on average looking at around 40 hours of running dungeons at normal, non-speedrun speeds. This sounds about right for content that's supposed to keep people busy for 3 months. I understand that some people don't think it's "fair" because someone got their item with less "work" but people should do the quests because they're having fun and because they enjoy seeing their characters get better, cooler gear, not to compete with everyone to be like "OMG I have relic and you don't!"

I realize this is just one perspective on the matter. I'm not calling my opinion right and others' opinions wrong, I just wanted to share my thoughts.

[Dhex]

Just wanted to share my thoughts.

Go do 40+ Aurum Vales while everyone around you is getting their drop in under 3 runs.

Then come back and "share your thoughts".

You'll sing a different tune.

Personally the majority of my experience has been 10+ runs minimum.

WP 1/12
Aurum Vale 1/44
Haukke HM 1/17
AK 1/3
Pharos 1/16
Tam-Tara HM 1/15
Copperbell HM 1/18
Stone Vigil HM 1/24
Brayflox HM 1/12
Dzemael Darkhold 1/8
Snowcloak 1/4
Halatali hm 0/12
Hullbreaker 0/4
Lost city 0/8
Sastasha HM 0/8
Qarn -/-

I'm a tank so there's that at least, but I seriously feel like I'm being abused when I see people that are finishing the dungeon portions incredibly quickly by comparison and complaining about having to grind Soldiery.

[Tahldon]

I'm a tank so there's that at least, but I seriously feel like I'm being abused when I see people that are finishing the dungeon portions incredibly quickly by comparison and complaining about having to grind Soldiery.

As silly as it sounds, I actually had a thought along the same lines... that there were shenanigans afoot clearly to keep me in the queue and in the dungeons as a healer.

I suppose that's just me attempting to make some sort of sense as to why I've run Copperbell Mines HM over 20 times (along with other dungeons -- nearing that same tally) and manage not to get a drop or why SE even thinks that's relatively interesting to do, considering the lines of people saying they've only done certain dungeons so few times or that they're working on their 3rd or 4th weapon already.

As someone who consistently rolls single digit numbers on everything, daily -- you'd think there'd be a "break" somewhere along the lines, but apparently not. =_=

[BrielleBeaudonet]

Aurum Vale 1/44

Dear God. I hope you can feel the hugs I'm trying to send you over the Internet.

[TheCurls]

Just finished my Last Resort tonight. I averaged one dungeon atma in every 4.31 dungeons (I'm a stat geek).

Brayflox - 16 runs
Snowcloak - 8
Haukke Manor - 7
Wanderer's Palace - 6
Tam-Tara - 6
Hullbreaker - 5
Sastasha - 4
Pharos Sirius - 4
Aurum Vale - 2
Copperbell - 2
Amdapor Keep - 2
Qarn - 2
Halatali - 2
Stone Vigil - 1
Lost City - 1
Darkhold - 1

[Kyomagi]

I feel bad for all these people running AV and PS 30+ times and im just sitting here 1/1 on both of them T_T

this is messed up, they need to put a cap on runs

[Yukariko]

I feel bad for all these people running AV and PS 30+ times and im just sitting here 1/1 on both of them T_T
this is messed up, they need to put a cap on runs

yes they do, even if it's a high cap like 25 for each dungeon and it has to be a full clear, no join in progress...

finally got copperbell HM last night 1/17 and that was causing me no end of aggravation.
I'm also running healer, cos while I'm gunning for the DRG weapon, healer insta-queue beats 27 minute dps queue...

[Kyomagi]

ya the most i hit was hullbreaker at 17, i dont think i got any other dungeon over 7, in total i did 58ish dungeon runs

[ZanzhizExaverion]

16/95 for me, finished last night. I'll post exact numbers later.

By the end of the grind I had to grind out 0 Soldiery, with 300~ to spare by the end of it.

I got so many newbie bonuses it was like a blessing, but at the same time it did slow some runs down, but that was fine.

After I got past DD and AV I started having fun, making small talk with other players and cracking jokes about how I was allergic to the Hullbreaker Bees when I got OHKO'd from Final Sting. All in all I will be taking up a new set and help my friend run through things, because 1 it's something to do, and 2, I kinda wanna be prepared for Dark Knight if it has a Zodiac.