Real Money to Get In-Game Currency: Eternal Bond Edition

[Kuolema]

It was official a long time ago. I think you are a little tardy to the party.

[Teppie]

Earlier in this thread someone commented how soon people will start selling wedding invitations on Party Finder; well it's official.

Can't wait to read threads about "Cutscene skippers harassing me to skip my own wedding"

[ManweSulimo]

"I told you".

Keep saying that it's not a big deal and defending SE with your blindfolds on, and you'll see where you'll end.

Now you can ban me again for two whole weeks for saying the truth and trying to unite people against the cash shop (while people make threads with the only purpose of provoking other players and nothing happens, even if that clearly goes against your precious rules), SE. I don't care. I'm not going to post anything else, anyway, it's not worth it. Yes, I don't care about the game anymore nor look forward to any live letter or patch, and I'm sure that I'm not the only one. That's what you have accomplished, congrats. I wish that you never ever again need the support of your core playerbase, the same ones that you seem to enjoy alienating, to stay afloat.

I and countless thousands of other core playerbase people around the world will continue to support them whether you do or not ^^ I am blown away by such posts as if this view is the view of the majority of people that play this. As can be seen on this thread by all the complaints clearly this view is shared by many people all of which have the same characteristic - good at complaining about it. And maybe if the complainers can be alienated into oblivion we won't have to waste our time reading and responding to complaints anymore and we can just enjoy the awesome game that SE has put together for us

[ManweSulimo]

There are people who are quite happy to spend just that kind of money. People whose ego is so invested in the game that they are happy to pay extortionate amounts to be 'the best' on their server, whether that means market dominance or BiS gear.

Allowing people the ability to obtain in game currency (albeit with an intermediary step) without having to do anything in game to achieve it is anathema to an MMO.

If success has a price then it has no value.

All success in anything has a price, period.

[Grimmel]

It was official a long time ago. I think you are a little tardy to the party.

I made this thread a little over a week ago and lost two days of reading the thread due to my computer breaking down. By then the thread was well over 35+ pages and I didn't feel like going through all that reading cause some of it became inconsistent with the topic.

[ManweSulimo]

You have received an advantage, you have skipped the time investment compared to other players. You can get the best gear, both in combat and crafting classes with melded gear. You can skip large portions of the relic grind by just purchasing the materia vs grinding it. As well, you beat out other players in buying things like housing, materials, minions, etc without having to actually do anything besides punch in your credit card. You are literally paying to advance yourself in FFXIV. While you can't "win" in an MMO since there is no end, you are winning at the main point of the game which is advancement. Especially when it comes to things that are in directed competition with other players, IE the market. Cool, you can now buy the best house in the district, while those guys grinding and farming to get the money get screwed over. But it's not p2w guys.

This doesn't even cover the fact that this is being done while everyone pays a subscription fee. P2W wouldn't be as much as a problem if we weren't already paying a sub on top of things.

It's funny how those goal posts keep moving. Everyone was saying "oh it won't be P2W", and now it's "p2w is actually good guys".

What's hilarious is that the guys farming and grinding that you think are somehow getting "screwed over" are the ones benefitting the most by this guy buying all of the materia that they spiritbonded, etc.. The only people getting screwed over are the ones not taking advantage of whatever is hot in the market.

[ManweSulimo]

Legacy players were segregated from others, and play on legacy servers which have their economies scaled differently due to the amount of gil in the system, so I dunno how that has to do with anything. A legacy server house will cost more than a non-legacy server house. As well, they achieved that wealth by playing the game, not trying to skip it through external means, which is the topic at hand. You are trying to deflect the argument here, you are saying that SE endorsed RMT isn't P2W and doesn't give the player an advantage and now are talking about non-cash shop stuff which SE had taken steps (and did a pretty good job) to avoid giving advantages to anyone.

Sure, and SE can delete all our characters cause they feel like it. That's doesn't make it any less terrible. You might love to spend money to get SE to enabled a flag in your character's database entry, and then pay a monthly fee to see that virtual item or what have you, but others think it's shady as hell.

And the people that have the money to afford those things could not possibly care any less about how shady the people that don't have the money to do that would think it is

[Kuolema]

I made this thread a little over a week ago and lost two days of reading the thread due to my computer breaking down. By then the thread was well over 35+ pages and I didn't feel like going through all that reading cause some of it became inconsistent with the topic.

So you decided to bring back your thread from life support to restart this silly debate over some stupid bracelets that no longer sell for millions of gil. How thoughtful of you.

[ManweSulimo]

It boggles my mind that people think for some reason think that the players buying cash shop items and selling for gil have an advantage over them. You can do the same thing if you want. Maybe if you live in a socialist country where you can't just out earn other people I would understand but if you live in America and you think that then shame on you. Everyone has the same opportunity to earn as much or as little as they choose. Again I do not wish to offend anyone but rather to challenge people that have this self-limiting mindset.

[Chessala]

I find it cute how people don't consider that gold seller, in any game, are only banned because they money does not go into the pockets of the people making and publishing the game.

People legitimately buy the bracelets from SE so why would SE complain about extra money that they knew would be coming. If they had wanted to avoid it, they would have made the bracelets untradeable or make you register the character that will receive the bracelet as fixed party on the wedding.

I am not supporting it, I am not against it. I am simply being objective and the reality is, in the end, if the cash is right, they will support it. On the long run, it's only a matter of time until the game will be F2P.

Just please SE, no more stubby horses...Make some PRETTY horse mounts