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  1. #21
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    Roris's Avatar
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    Rori Uguu
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    Sargatanas
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    Weaver Lv 80
    It's just so weird that they chose to introduce a PLEX/Chronoscroll-ish like kinda sorta but not really because you can't buy sub time system with weddings. Then again it's SE and they're always so backwards, though I guess they could be testing the waters for a real PLEX system, who knows, or it could like be a genuine mishap like the myriad this game and the latest installments in the franchise have.
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  2. #22
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    Zephyranthes's Avatar
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    Hilde Everglade
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    Tonberry
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    $ = Bracelet = Gil

    therefore

    $ = Gil

    Odd that they're fine with this but go on and on about how many RMT they've gotten rid of.
    This.

    A lot of people have an idea that "pay to win" is winning something directly such as clearing coil or winning some epic battle instantly. They'd argue that if SE sold high-end gear in the cash shop that you'd still need effort and skill to clear/win on dungeons and raids.
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  3. #23
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Xhominid View Post
    People have no idea what true gamebreaking is...discuss something is gamebreaking...yeah no.
    Ikr? Gil doesn't buy you anything that will break the game. Even using it for melds is far from game-breaking, and almost anything else you do with it is fluff that doesn't impact gameplay at all.

    If funding pentamelds, having a marginally more optimal Novus, and buying more food off the marketboard = the extent of gil's effect on gameplay, I think we're fairly safe.
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  4. #24
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyranthes View Post
    This.

    A lot of people have an idea that "pay to win" is winning something directly such as clearing coil or winning some epic battle instantly. They'd argue that if SE sold high-end gear in the cash shop that you'd still need effort and skill to clear/win on dungeons and raids.
    That last part is true, but the backlash would be severe from people who watch others whiz by them in progression while they slog through the gearing process normally.

    SE would also never do this since too much instant gratification leads to players not logging in frequently.
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  5. #25
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    Tsukotaku's Avatar
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    Mako Mako
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    GM's are NOT Game Developers. A lot of the time one GM will say it's okay, then the other will say it's not. And then you have times where a GM says it's okay and an actual Game Developer will say it is not. You should always take what a GM says with a grain of salt as half the time they are wrong.

    I will continue to wait for an official response on this matter before I take the word of a GM.
    The GM team is, most likely, the one that will take or indicate actions against your account in the case you're breaking the TOS. They've to follow strict guidelines provided by the publisher and/or the developers.
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    Last edited by Tsukotaku; 12-10-2014 at 09:45 AM.

  6. #26
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    Thistledown's Avatar
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    Mighty Miggles
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    Tonberry
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    Fisher Lv 50
    If anyone wants a plat bracelet for 100 mil send me a Tell
    /end sarcasm

    Or nearest offer.
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  7. #27
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    Grimmel's Avatar
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    Overlord Mitron
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukotaku View Post
    The GM team is, most likely, the one that will take or indicate actions against your account in the case you're breaking the TOS. They've to follow strict guidelines provided by the publisher and/or the developers.
    And yet there have been several instances in this MMO and others; Where a GM will say something is okay and then a Game Developer will say it is not.

    The GM team are enforcers; they are not judges. There is a separate team that hands out verdicts(Bans) based on GM reports; that separate team is the task force for this game. Every game has GM's and a separate set of representatives that hand out the bans based on information from GM's.

    It's the same thing with RL; Police enforce the law and can arrest someone for something if they deem the individual is breaking a law, but they cannot issue jail time or other sentencing as it is not their jurisdiction.
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  8. #28
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    Masamune
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    Lancer Lv 60
    SE clearly created a loophole so that they can get more sales. Then see how the community responds before saying its ok or not ok.
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  9. #29
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    Magis's Avatar
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    Magis Luagis
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmel View Post
    The GM team are enforcers; they are not judges. There is a separate team that hands out verdicts(Bans) based on GM reports; that separate team is the task force for this game. Every game has GM's and a separate set of representatives that hand out the bans based on information from GM's.
    Um, GMs have the power to ban players in every MMO and carry out said bans. If they didn't have that power, how could they "enforce" anything? Or do you have some knowledge of SE's GM power structure?
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  10. #30
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    Alexander_Dragonfang's Avatar
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    Alexander Dragonfang
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    Zalera
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Look at the White Knights.

    Retainers don`t mean there will be a Cash Shop.
    Cash Shop doesn`t mean there will be content put behind it.
    Content behind the Cash Shop will never become P2W.

    Desperate White Knights, this is pay 2 win, period. Anyone can now buy these, sell them and get runs and gear from coils or other content. Advancing in RAID content thanks to this. Getting ACHIVEMENTS with this. If that isn`t pay 2 win... Well, lol.
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