Real Money to Get In-Game Currency: Eternal Bond Edition

[Bishop81]

Actually, it ties the in-game currency to a real world currency, which, like a gold standard, actually strengthens the market dynamic. it can lead to deflation, making what gil SE gives us worth more.

Times where the economy has been tied to the gold standard have been some of the most stable periods in history. maybe this will stabilize the in game markets as well.

Which is why many countries' currencies are still tied to the gold standar ... oh wait.

Ezorea is a separate world, we play it because it's a separate world.

What next? You got to send $€ a video of you benching 400lbs to be a good WAR?

[RubenSnizzle]

Still, we need an official stance from the GMs or the Devs. We don't know for sure what they will think about this. Just after 5 minutes of PF I got around 10 messages on the line of "Me and my FC will report you for RMT", "You're going to get banned for RMT", Ecc...

Edit: I'm trying to get contact with one of the active GMs on Ragnarok, if I get something out of this topic I will bring it here.

Edit #2: Support confirms that it's NOT a violation of the TOS.

The GM clearly says TRADING, there is nothing about selling it for gils.

[JeniLinsky]

Therefore we would like players to stop selling and trading the bracelets for gil so that they can continue to be used for their intended purpose.

Riiiiiiiiiiight.

Asking RMTs to stop! That always works! That's why the team hasn't had to ban a single 'bot this month!

[Dotsusama]

People can buy fcob wins and gear.

The people who already had the gil before can spend the money the exact same way as the person who trades a bracelet for that same gil.

Or, like me, can take their gil and remove it from circulation by buying a house with it. Which is my plan, and takes gil off of the market that was just going to either 1) trade hands between players, or 2) sit on someone's retainer until they had something to spend it on. Sheesh.

[Taliph]

The people who already had the gil before can spend the money the exact same way as the person who trades a bracelet for that same gil.

Or, like me, can take their gil and remove it from circulation by buying a house with it. Which is my plan, and takes gil off of the market that was just going to either 1) trade hands between players, or 2) sit on someone's retainer until they had something to spend it on. Sheesh.

While your statement is true, it does nothing to disprove pay to win.

[Zumi]

On Sargatanas I have yet to see anyone buying or selling a bracelet in the PF. Ask anyone on Sargatanas they will tell you the same thing. I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion the actual amount of people trying to make gil by selling bracelets.

I check PF a lot never seen anyone selling one. Personally I would love to pay gil for a wedding and not real money but it doesn't happen on my server.

[FateAudax]

On Sargatanas I have yet to see anyone buying or selling a bracelet in the PF. Ask anyone on Sargatanas they will tell you the same thing. I think you guys are blowing this way out of proportion the actual amount of people trying to make gil by selling bracelets.

I check PF a lot never seen anyone selling one. Personally I would love to pay gil for a wedding and not real money but it doesn't happen on my server.

It's normal. These cash-shop haters/subscription-entitlement players making a non-issue into an exaggerated issue. It is as though the game is dying and they're trying their best to resuscitate it. It's laughable because the game is very much alive and kicking. All the multiple cash-shop hate threads are just a waste of space and without a doubt, pointless.

[tocsin]

Which is why many countries' currencies are still tied to the gold standar ... oh wait.

Ezorea is a separate world, we play it because it's a separate world.

What next? You got to send $€ a video of you benching 400lbs to be a good WAR?

I actually play it because its fun. I'm not sure why you do though.

and the reasoning why current countries are not tied to the gold standard is because the rise of debt in world economies has led to countries having to print money to cover their own costs. this inflated money, and the elimination of the gold standard allowed for countries to print more money without requiring it be backed by anything.

bad politics aside, SE doesnt have in game dbts, so a gold standard can work in game. EVE online does it, and has one of the strongest economies of any game out there. We arent the size or quality of EVE, as FFXIV is an inferior game in terms of economic quality and server density, however the method still applies.

[Bishop81]

I actually play it because its fun. I'm not sure why you do though.

and the reasoning why current countries are not tied to the gold standard is because the rise of debt in world economies has led to countries having to print money to cover their own costs. this inflated money, and the elimination of the gold standard allowed for countries to print more money without requiring it be backed by anything.

bad politics aside, SE doesnt have in game dbts, so a gold standard can work in game. EVE online does it, and has one of the strongest economies of any game out there. We arent the size or quality of EVE, as FFXIV is an inferior game in terms of economic quality and server density, however the method still applies.

I play it for fun too.

But what fun is there if the playing field isn't somewhat level. Do you think a scrawny 14 year old who is just learning the ropes will have fun fighting against Mike Tyson in his prime?

RL rich people will be the Mike Tysons of this game's economy.

You also forgot to mention gold backed money isn't 100% stable either, discovery of gold deposits will upset the value.

Technically all money is fiat money, even gold ... which is way over valued given it's utility to man. Money has no intrinsic value. Money is just a promise to pay in goods and services. The US dollar is backed by the capacity of the USA to produce goods and services of value.

[Neira]

I believe this is the first step down a terribly slippery slope that pushes this game into full blown P2W.

The first step was the original introduction of the extra retainers or the cash shop.

The REAL ISSUE with this is it is HORRIBLY INEQUITABLE TO PLAYERS.

That issue arose with the extra retainers and cash shop in the first place. Were you one of the ones speaking up against it? This is a mmoRPg, and not all of us play to try and be the best, some of us just enjoy the novelty and the characterization. Not being able to access vanity gear, which is the largest factor for my enjoyment, due to limited funds was already unfair to myself and others like me. This update has just given people who enjoy the aesthetics of the game a chance to obtain things they otherwise could not, and that sounds to me to be very similar to what you're describing so emphatically.