We have finally come full circle, SMN's need help!

[SummonerSenah]

I'm not sure if it's just me being pessimistic about fixes or if I'm just bored, but I haven't been doing much on summoner recently. My raid's BLM main has been offline for almost two months with real life issues so I've been running BLM instead of smn and having a lot of fun with that. Right now I'm actually considering working on the relic since I have too much accuracy and not enough crit between the poetry gear and the soldiery weapon. If I did a Novus I could try for a crit/det build.

[Minorinz]

add an off hand with piety maybe?

[Mature]

Hotfixes in 2 days fingers cross for smn ....which I doubt but nevertheless lol

[Starkbeaumont]

we get a major update in 12 days. if it doesn't include any "fixes" to smn, there is definitely a need for response (unless the issue is non existent among the Japanese community, which i hardly doubt). besides that it might be a bit tough to respond considering there are at least 10 active topics regarding smn going and every now and then a new one pops on top...

[Atomnium]

To Lavieh :

I was thinking, maybe... Since the original post is from reddit, maybe you should edit your first post here and include the full version from reddit ? Maybe that's the reason why the community staff is completely ignoring this thread since like 1 month now.
I don't know really :/ I just don't want to believe that they don't give a shit, it would be kind of sad.

[ereskigal]

I don't think we'll see any changes to smn till 3.0, they would have said something already. I'm hoping they remove the class system all together and revamp smn job ATM sch shares too many of smn skills separateing the two would allow sch and smn to be there own thing.

[Kikosho]

With the amount of "Change SMN" threads (partly due to a specific individual), I'd think part of the devs consider the playerbase to be crying wolf everytime a new thread pops up, this thread being no exception.

[Atomnium]

With the amount of "Change SMN" threads (partly due to a specific individual), I'd think part of the devs consider the playerbase to be crying wolf everytime a new thread pops up, this thread being no exception.

Well, just check the forum the community staff is actually reading a lot our threads and always try to answer, even if the question sound odd or frivolous.
But for some reasons, when it come to SMN, they just act as mute people, it's like that since months why?

There is actually 3 possibilities of why we are not getting any answer from community staff or DEV :
1) They can't give us any kind of answer without half spoiling a "maybe" major / impressive change and revamp for smn in 3.0.
2) An honest answer about being not able to touch at smn because of the delicate balance between smn and sch since they both share arcanist class (It would mean to leave the boat for many of us before it sink).
3) They are absolutely not aware at smn current issues... Because they don't play it when testing their new contents, blm is a caster too! good enough to know for gears and contents.

The answer 3) would explain why there is absolutely no balance on shared casting stuffs when it come to spell speed and accuracy since 2.4, would explain also the obvious mp issues for fcob.
Let's be realistic, they kept adding spell speed on best books from coil since scob, ironwork book is a good laugh too xD to me it's enough of a proof that they don't play smn at all.

[Sunako]

Or maybe they do not take serious anymore these SMN treads because there was loads of those even before 2.4. Loads of complains how summoner should be like ffxi summoner and how summoner should be pet job and not dot job. Loads of complains how SCH and SMN should split from each others. SMN was probably one of the strongest dps class in t9 before and we had book of spades with bis stats and ppl still complain. Other classes have bad stats their ironwork weapon too like bard 51 skill speed, the most useless stat for them. Or why WHM have spell speed both allagan and dreadwyrm weapon? It is bis stat for whm? No, it is not, its worst stat for whm. Itemization should not be the reason why the class is bad. I think SMN is pretty hard balance because of the downtime and movements how much different battles have. In some fights SMN is either really good or bad depends on fight and how much downtime different battles have. I think the mp is not the huge issue since you can save your mp with minimal dps loss. Even if you would have unlimited mana your damage would not increase so much. You would get little more auto attacks from spamming ruin2 all of the time and few more festers. If you need 10x energy drain over fester in 10 min fight that only lower your overall dps around 10 dps. Auto attacks would probably increase your dps 5 - 10.

[Minorinz]

well, let's hope the new CT dungeon will have SMN oriented gear, i120 full Det+Crit over SS anytime. If so then this would help SMN a little..