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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    If this is working as intended, it is actually definitely illegal in the US according to our customer protection laws. It's called False Advertising.
    B-b-b-b-but muh T-T-Terms of Service.
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    See the difference is I looked at this and researched before doing stuff instantly...

    Note:
    1. Red Square Area, says you need the same plan.
    2. Note the steps above show you do quests AFTER (you show the bracelets.)
    3. If the bracelets dictate the quest... this means your items are tied to the quest.
    4. If your quest is the "downgraded" version you would get the down graded items.

    Fix: (Which SE should do anyways because I want multiple HQ dresses to dye/vanity metallic purchased colors)
    1. Just make the platinum/gold items purchasable via CALAMITY SALVAGER if your character was flagged as purchasing the plan AND you have completed the quest.

    I think a bigger glaring issue is... if you toss the dress you can't get it back from the calamity savager.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    B-b-b-b-but muh T-T-Terms of Service.
    Haven't courts ruled that ToS agreements are not legally binding simply by being ToS agreements that you clicked yes to? In Bragg v. Linden Research, inc (a case relating to Second Life), it was put forth that ToS agreements are not binding when they are contracts of adhesion ("take it or leave it" agreements) (again, IANAL).

    Quote Originally Posted by Mardel View Post
    1. Red Square Area, says you need the same plan.
    2. Note the steps above show you do quests AFTER (you show the bracelets.)
    3. If the bracelets dictate the quest... this means your items are tied to the quest.
    4. If your quest is the "downgraded" version you would get the down graded items.
    Where does it say that the rewards will be downgraded as well as the ceremony? I only see the ceremony mentioned. You may know that the ceremony planning (the quest) itself is what dictates the rewards, not how much you paid, but that is not implied anywhere on this website. The site clearly says that the platinum plan brings with it certain rewards, and if your partner has a lesser plan, the ceremony planning is downgraded. There is no linkage here. If you're using just the website to determine how much it will cost you, and then you purchase the items based solely on the information here believing it to be complete, you will be screwed. This is simply not legal. It really isn't.

    Also, where is the notice on the Mogstation when you are purchasing the actual wristlets that you need the same as your spouse? It's not there. There's a link to the Eternal Bond site, but that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    Haven't courts ruled that ToS agreements are not legally binding simply by being ToS agreements that you clicked yes to? In Bragg v. Linden Research, inc (a case relating to Second Life), it was put forth that ToS agreements are not binding when they are contracts of adhesion ("take it or leave it" agreements) (again, IANAL).
    Yup, pretty much. Just wanted to throw that out there because I know at least one person would try to dismiss the whole thing by saying ToS like it means anything legally.
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