Please do something about the Skill Points!

[Seif]

I thought they were supposed to de-emphasize this game being all about the copy pasted leves but yesterday my SP/min went through the roof when I did a 3 star r20 leve.

After hearing all the crying on forums how r25+ sp gains supposedly suck I can't but disagree. I went through one rank in 1,5hrs by doing the same leves I've been grinding since 2010.

Funnily enough the sp the Nannygoats around bloodshore give me is minimal and the fights compared to my level are a lot tougher than the cakewalk sp-frenzy r20 leve.

[Verecund]

/agreed with OP, and it would also be nice for more challenging mechanics to accompany the difficulty increase rather than just stat increases.

[Viridiana]

I'm a 33 THM

easy mode: killing rank 43 mob = 225 sp
challenging: killing rank 48 mob = 225 sp

easy mode: 2 star leve in 2,5min = 4000sp
challenging: 4 star leve in 2,5min = 4000sp

same rank 40 leve
challenging as hell: with rank 33 = 3300sp
easy mode: with rank 50 = 4800sp

Why are we being punished for winning tough fights where you need to play skillfull

Two questions about this part (assuming this is your THM vs. SEN sp). First, are you sure that it wasn't 3200 and 4800? Second, were you using aspect? I ask because I just did a behest at Cedarwood (r35 recommended) with 30 GLA and 36 SEN and my SEN sp was exactly 1.5x my GLA. Then, doing leves and using aspect, I was getting equal sp between the two.

Basically, I'm thinking this might just be the game always giving Sentinel the benefit of 1.5x sp when you get rewards (i.e., leves and behests). . .

[Jabo]

Two questions about this part (assuming this is your THM vs. SEN sp). First, are you sure that it wasn't 3200 and 4800? Second, were you using aspect? I ask because I just did a behest at Cedarwood (r35 recommended) with 30 GLA and 36 SEN and my SEN sp was exactly 1.5x my GLA. Then, doing leves and using aspect, I was getting equal sp between the two.

Basically, I'm thinking this might just be the game always giving Sentinel the benefit of 1.5x sp when you get rewards (i.e., leves and behests). . .

It could have been 3200, yes and I used guardians aspect.
Behests are, like Quests, most definitely rank capped, because they have nothing to do with the time.
I did rank 45 behests and got less skill points than in Caderwood.
Same story.

[Viridiana]

It could have been 3200, yes and I used guardians aspect.
Behests are, like Quests, most definitely rank capped, because they have nothing to do with the time.
I did rank 45 behests and got less skill points than in Caderwood.
Same story.

Well, then. . . that's just silly. >_>

[Crimzon]

I think the reason you are getting 2 different numbers if because you are rank 33 and not rank 35, trying to do r40 leves. I could have sworn somewhere, that they raised the level they unlock to the 5's (15,25,35) from the 3's in order to make it uniform with DoL leves. If you didn't already have another job higher than your 33, I really dont think these leves would even be open to you yet.

I think I also read that completing these leves outside of that 5 level gap (34 and below for example on a r40 leve) would yield less reward via completion bonus at the end. Your shield level is high enough to qualify for full bonus so maybe that is why you are getting the full amount?

[Keith_Dragoon]

I think the reason you are getting 2 different numbers if because you are rank 33 and not rank 35, trying to do r40 leves. I could have sworn somewhere, that they raised the level they unlock to the 5's (15,25,35) from the 3's in order to make it uniform with DoL leves. If you didn't already have another job higher than your 33, I really dont think these leves would even be open to you yet.

I think I also read that completing these leves outside of that 5 level gap (34 and below for example on a r40 leve) would yield less reward via completion bonus at the end. Your shield level is high enough to qualify for full bonus so maybe that is why you are getting the full amount?

Exactly this, on my 36 conjurer I get like 4.5k sp per 40 leve but my 33 shield gets like 2-3k sp per leve because its not quite at the right rank. Its not that you are not being rewarded for your hard work its more like your are being punished for doing something that under normal circumstances wouldn't be available to you for 2 levels or so.

[Seirra_Lanzce]

lol sad, i did a 5 star leve at r40 camps while i was still Rnk44 LNC and got my self 6.8k SP (ofcourse with Guardian Favor) and 5.2k(without guardian favor) :P hmm yea they need to be balance abit for sake of fairness >_<

[Jabo]

@Crimzon
1. I know how it works.
Thats the problem in fact. That we are forced to take the easy way.


2. You can do r40 leves with your first rank 33 class.

rank 13 unlocks rank 20 camps
rank 23 unlocks rank 30 camps
rank 33 unlocks rank 40 camps

[Keith_Dragoon]

@Crimzon
2. You can do r40 leves with your first rank 33 class.

rank 13 unlocks rank 20 camps
rank 23 unlocks rank 30 camps
rank 33 unlocks rank 40 camps

incorrect sir, I did not get access to R40 leves until I hit 35, it has been changed.

R15 - R20 camps
R25 - R30 camps
R35 - R40 camps

Thats the new requirements.