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  1. #21
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    Alcide's Avatar
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    Apathy Emerald
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I agree with the OP, the point is that grinding raptors is BORING AS HELL. There's no challenge in it, it's extremely easy and fast.
    If I have to grind for hours I'd rather do something engaging, not battles that make me sleepy, so I'm looking for something a bit harder and battles a bit longer that require the use of some skill, not just Multishot. But if those battles are giving me less sp then it's really pointless.
    I've never comared FFXIV to XI, but in this case FFXI grind was fun, it required a good party, the use of a lot of skills and the average time it took to kill a mob was fine. The levelling process was too slow (at least when I used to play) but you had fun while grinding and you had a glimpse of the role of your class.

    I have to say, I think guildleves grind was more fun than raptors, at least we had to do something different in every leve (necrologos, defending, etc) it got boring because of the Broken Water thing.
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  2. #22
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    Vanguard319's Avatar
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    I've returned! First I find pants, then Louisoix dies for sending me to the void.
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    Uni Neko
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    Hyperion
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    Archer Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Jabo View Post
    I'm a 33 THM

    easy mode: killing rank 43 mob = 225 sp
    challenging: killing rank 48 mob = 225 sp

    easy mode: 2 star leve in 2,5min = 4000sp
    challenging: 4 star leve in 2,5min = 4000sp

    same rank 40 leve
    challenging as hell: with rank 33 = 3300sp
    easy mode: with rank 50 = 4800sp

    Why are we being punished for winning tough fights where you need to play skillfull
    Why are you doing an r40 leve at r50 when you're already at cap?
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  3. #23
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    MariyaShidou's Avatar
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Masamune
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    The rank cap is because mob type yield much more SP different and the fight varies a lot in term of challenging. Fighting a Doblyn 15 ranks higher than you is still a walk in the park compared to killing a Drake 10 ranks higher than you. It is there to reward people who actually enjoy a real challenge rather than people who enjoy exploiting SP off the weak Doblyn.
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  4. #24
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    Starlord's Avatar
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    Luna Sushima
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    Siren
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    Samurai Lv 91
    Make the most out of it

    That is all
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  5. #25
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    Darkstar Poet
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vanguard319 View Post
    Why are you doing an r40 leve at r50 when you're already at cap?
    he pointed out earlier in the thread he is 33thm and 50 sentinel so he can see the sp given to his shield.
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  6. #26
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Don't get he the same SP for sentinel and THM?
    I get always the same SP (CON 45 and Sentinel 41)
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  7. #27
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    Indira Cliodhna
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    the games is still easy just minus the infinte MP. you just need to adapt your play style
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  8. #28
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    Raze's Avatar
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    Glass Blades
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Do the old balance of highest difficulty you can complete vs. time required to finish.

    I've been noticing on 5 stars skill points will go up an (admittedly minor) amount due to flying through kills.

    5 min increments seem to adjust it, but the 15 min mark kills my bonus sometimes (use aspect if you're gonna do it fast)
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  9. #29
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    Seif Dincht
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 72
    I thought they were supposed to de-emphasize this game being all about the copy pasted leves but yesterday my SP/min went through the roof when I did a 3 star r20 leve.

    After hearing all the crying on forums how r25+ sp gains supposedly suck I can't but disagree. I went through one rank in 1,5hrs by doing the same leves I've been grinding since 2010.

    Funnily enough the sp the Nannygoats around bloodshore give me is minimal and the fights compared to my level are a lot tougher than the cakewalk sp-frenzy r20 leve.
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    /agreed with OP, and it would also be nice for more challenging mechanics to accompany the difficulty increase rather than just stat increases.
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