Dragoon: top dps and easiest melee class by far ?

[Andyman]

Rather than being completely punished for missing a positional attack, you're now being rewarded for have landed it positioned correctly.

It should have always been like this.

[Casper]

Chaos Thrust (tooltip error it's rear)
Rear: 616
Other: 427

Others have noted a 120 difference on CT at i110, which makes sense since it is 50 more potency, so 25% more damage; 25% of 425 = 105, not 190. There is a mistake in your numbers.

120 damage per 30 seconds is 4 dps. So staying on flank full time is doing 496 dps instead of 500. it is NOT a big difference -- if anything it is an extremely low difference.

[Krisom]

Others have noted a 120 difference on CT at i110, which makes sense since it is 50 more potency, so 25% more damage; 25% of 425 = 105, not 190. There is a mistake in your numbers.

No there's no mistake at all as they were the numbers that appeared on my screen.
What you (or rather I) was seeing is the rear getting a very high roll whilst the 'other' was probably on the low end.

[Casper]

No there's no mistake at all as they were the numbers that appeared on my screen.
What you (or rather I) was seeing is the rear getting a very high roll whilst the 'other' was probably on the low end.

Yeah would explain it too Sorry for being a bit rude. But yeah, it's not going to make or break a drg dps.

[Pots_Talos]

I personally love the changes. (including the positional removal) Want a more difficult job to play? Go monk. Want an easier job to play? Go dragoon etc.

But why play a more difficult job if the easier job is better?

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

But why play a more difficult job if the easier job is better?

Because it's what you have mostly played and can't see yourself playing a different job?

[Andyman]

But why play a more difficult job if the easier job is better?

Am I wrong, or isn't monk still going to provide more dps overall, dragon kick debuff and 20% mantra?

Plus some people just prefer the other classes.

Dragoon's finally get buffed so they can compete with the other classes and people complain. The changes are fantastic, if you don't like it, play a class you like to play and don't worry about it.

[Pots_Talos]

I'm not really complaining, I was just asking a question based on what Fyrmurl said. I main Warrior so this really changes nothing for me at all.

[xnonamex]

This community.... can never be satisfied... is ridiculous. Most of the good drg were still able to land most of the positionals before (except the occasions where it really was not possible). And if you still want to do max deeps you still need to use 2 positionals. so most of the good drgs will still follow them.

If drg was bad he will still be bad and this wont help. In general speaking it only requires for you to be good in this game if you are doing latest coil. And ppl who can do it are actually trying to be as good as possible. So meh. For other content it really doesn't matter what you do. A lot of standard drgs don't even bother to keep HT up. It will not really change anything. So increased deeps is good. Rest of the stuff does not really change much where it actually matters. And for crying NINs - goad is still pretty damn good to fill out TP starved DRG when Invigorate is on CD. And Nins have things to bring in on the table. So i think it's all right. I didn't quit drg when it was the weakest melee dps (even before i knew they gonna buff it) so I don't really see reason for ppl complaining - just play what you like.

[Pots_Talos]

I think my biggest concern is, where does this stop? Will people start complaining that Monk positionals are too demanding and SE gets rid of those next?