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    Quote Originally Posted by Katsaria View Post
    Well they shifted the positional from Impulse Drive to Chaos Thrust but the wording for Heavy Thrust has me slightly confused:

    "Weapon skill direction requirements for the additional effect have been abolished."

    Is it lower potency from another direction? This isn't entirely clear. If it it then my complaints will easily be alleviated.
    Yeah, how I take that is basically for Heavy Thrust, you can stab the mob wherever you want and still get the DAMAGE UP buff, buf if you wanna maximize DPS and potency, you still would want to use it from the side, but at least you won't get screwed on the buff. that's my way of reading it anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klingsan View Post
    Yeah, how I take that is basically for Heavy Thrust, you can stab the mob wherever you want and still get the DAMAGE UP buff, buf if you wanna maximize DPS and potency, you still would want to use it from the side, but at least you won't get screwed on the buff. that's my way of reading it anyways.
    No, heavy thrust and impulse drive do maximum damage from any position similar to Ninja.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    No, heavy thrust and impulse drive do maximum damage from any position similar to Ninja.
    Alright then (I guess that make sense otherwise they would have mentioned the "other" potency in the notes)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    No, heavy thrust and impulse drive do maximum damage from any position similar to Ninja.
    Impulse Drive, yes.

    Heavy thrust, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    No, heavy thrust and impulse drive do maximum damage from any position similar to Ninja.
    I disagree with this assessment for Heavy Thrust. Here's why:

    Pre 2.45 Heavy Thrust:

    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    170 when executed from a target's flank.
    Flank Bonus: Increases damage dealt by 15%
    Duration: 20s

    Here's what they state in the patch notes:

    Weapon skill direction requirements for the additional effect have been abolished.

    No changes were made in any other regard except that the damage "flank" bonus (15%) will always activate from any direction. Now let's compare to the weapon skill they did abolish the positional for which was Impulse Drive.

    Pre 2.45:

    Delivers an attack with a potency of 100.
    180 when executed from behind target.

    Here's what they state in the patch notes:

    Weaponskill direction requirements have been abolished, allowing combo bonuses when attacking from any position.
    Potency has been set at 180. (Completely removed the 100)

    If Heavy Thrust were to do maximum damage from any position they would have kept the same wording and put in Potency has been set to 170, which they did not.
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