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  1. #21
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    Gogo Gogo
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    Odin
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    Botanist Lv 60
    No, there is a lot more work for Silver Brocades.

    Tomato relish require 1 HQ (can be done without HQ, but more reliable) tomato and ~1 Noble Grapes to be farmed. The rest of the materials (except shards) is vendor. Quicksynth the Dark Vinegar and you are ready to go.

    Silver Brocade require 4 Crawler cocoons, 3 Silver ore and 2 Effervescent water. None can be bought by vendor. You will need to craft both the Twinthread (x2) and quicksynth the Silver Ingot. You can macro craft HQ Twins without food, but it will require a lot of time crafting them and they require crystals.

    And in comparison:

    Spruce Plywood require 3 Spruce Log to be farmed. 4 Aldgoat Horn can be bought by vendor. Macro the Lumber (x1) and quicksynth the Glue (x2). Require half the amount of Crystals and less shards as well.
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    Akari Legaia
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    Brynhildr
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    Ninja Lv 60
    Fortunately Silver ingots go for next to nothing on the MB currently. If you want to be even lazier Weaver desynth can get heaps of twinthread just by desynthing bridesmaid tights and dresses.
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  3. #23
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    Aquilo Lynx
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    No, there is a lot more work for Silver Brocades.

    Crafting mat stuff
    While true that the Brocade do require more materials, using HQ tomatos is very costly, at least on my server, I use HQ Dark Vinegar and normal Tomatos. There are two big main differences here, firstly the base mats don't need to be HQ, so that saves greatly on cost if you are using HQ tomatos. Secondly, Artisan tools have a smaller loot table AND can give 1 to 3 Mastercrafts, this highly outweighs going the specs route. You also have to consider the time factor, which is really the huge barrier to MC, the amount of time needed to craft the turn-ins. The amount of time placed in making Brocade for up to triple the production of MC far exceeds that of using the relish route. The extras crystals needed to main twinthread plains in comparison to what you get. If anything, expect Crawler Cocoon's to skyrocket in prices shortly.
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  4. #24
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    Nerd Master
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 70
    I just crafted 24x silver brocade HQ starting from all NQ mats, i spent like 30 mins and i got 3x mastercraft.
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  5. #25
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    Mikon Chozo
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    Alpha
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post

    Spruce Plywood require 3 Spruce Log to be farmed. 4 Aldgoat Horn can be bought by vendor. Macro the Lumber (x1) and quicksynth the Glue (x2). Require half the amount of Crystals and less shards as well.
    you can get tons of HQ Lumber by desynthing wedding shoes, beside hard hippo leather and FC III demis
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  6. #26
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    Can get twin from weaver desynthesis of bridesmaid pants/dress
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  7. #27
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    So, anyone remember the part where in the Live Letter Yoshi said that they'd be reducing the cost of Sealant, while keeping the cost of Spring Water the same since it "made a food with a unique effect"?
    Spring Water is now 4 oaknots. Sealant is still 8 oaknots... oversight? Or does one hand not know what the other hand's doing?
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    Mikon Chozo
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    they never wrote that, they wrote that they'll decrease the water price and sealant price is fine
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  9. #29
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    Colette Pascal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    So, anyone remember the part where in the Live Letter Yoshi said that they'd be reducing the cost of Sealant, while keeping the cost of Spring Water the same since it "made a food with a unique effect"?
    Spring Water is now 4 oaknots. Sealant is still 8 oaknots... oversight? Or does one hand not know what the other hand's doing?
    The Q&A posted on the forum said they were reducing the water but not the sealant.
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  10. #30
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    Bargain Lancer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji1134 View Post
    So, anyone remember the part where in the Live Letter Yoshi said that they'd be reducing the cost of Sealant, while keeping the cost of Spring Water the same since it "made a food with a unique effect"?
    Spring Water is now 4 oaknots. Sealant is still 8 oaknots... oversight? Or does one hand not know what the other hand's doing?
    That is not what they said. It's clearly stated here:

    A18: We are currently looking into the prices of these items daily on each World and we are at a stage where we can say that we will be making adjustments.However, as for “Xelphatol spring water,” we do believe the current cost is too high, so we will be making it easier to obtain. On the other hand, we will be monitoring the cost of “Ehcatl sealant” a little bit more before we decide on making adjustments.
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