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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    I hope that I'm wrong.
    You are wrong.

    Trust me, you're going to see a huge supply of Mastercraft Demimateria flood the Market Board after this patch hits. Why? Each of the Artisan Tools can be desynth'd into up to 3 Mastercraft Demimateria AT A TIME! This is huge compared to the Artisan Spectacle's paltry ONE per desynth. Not to leave out this important detail: The Artisan Needle only requires a laughable 8 Silver Brocades to acquire...TWO less than Artisan Spectacles! It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out how much this will affect supply on Mastercraft.

    Blacksmith has more methods of obtaining Mastercraft...sure, but that doesn't matter when GSM will still have it easy by desynthing artisan needles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    You are wrong.

    Trust me, you're going to see a huge supply of Mastercraft Demimateria flood the Market Board after this patch hits. Why? Each of the Artisan Tools can be desynth'd into up to 3 Mastercraft Demimateria AT A TIME! This is huge compared to the Artisan Spectacle's paltry ONE per desynth. Not to leave out this important detail: The Artisan Needle only requires a laughable 8 Silver Brocades to acquire...TWO less than Artisan Spectacles! It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out how much this will affect supply on Mastercraft.

    Blacksmith has more methods of obtaining Mastercraft...sure, but that doesn't matter when GSM will still have it easy by desynthing artisan needles.
    I was taking the amount of materials into consideration. There will be a lot more work for materials (Crystals, Cocoons, Silver Ore, Effervescent Water) and more time (crafting the Twinthread) involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    I was taking the amount of materials into consideration. There will be a lot more work for materials (Crystals, Cocoons, Silver Ore, Effervescent Water) and more time (crafting the Twinthread) involved.
    Basically the same amount of work as Spicy Tomato Relish was. Really nothing changes except the acquisition amounts per attempt will be a lot higher for GSM desynth now. 8 Silver Brocades per tool is a huge buff. Honestly, HQing twinthread can be done quite easily without relying on a Hasty Touch or Basic Touch Rotation if you're a 3* and above crafter with Bouillabaisse. Probably doesn't even require food of such quality but I'm not in game currently to check. All I'm saying is this will bloat the economy with Mastercraft so I hope you all have sold off or hurry up and sell them at a high rate of speed before the value plummets.
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    Oh I am SOOOOOO glad I had the notion to predict the MC market crashing down this coming patch. I dedicated this entire weekend to just crafting all my tomatos into relishes and turning over the MC. Even right before the patch, I shouted selling my MC at just 500k per, when they go for about 700k. I feel "slightly" bad for the guy that bought 15 of them and placing them back up on the MB hoping to make a profit, but that's MMO market for you.

    I don't think I will even bother trying to make more MC's for the time being, I'm just going to watch the market and see how it goes on my server, but yes, the weaver tool seems to be the way to go.

    On another note, anyone else notice a ring now available for sell by an NPC in Uldal? 10 bucks says this can desynth into FC3, giving GSM desynth yet another advantage to being leveled, not that the FC3 market isn't already flooded lol.
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    No, there is a lot more work for Silver Brocades.

    Tomato relish require 1 HQ (can be done without HQ, but more reliable) tomato and ~1 Noble Grapes to be farmed. The rest of the materials (except shards) is vendor. Quicksynth the Dark Vinegar and you are ready to go.

    Silver Brocade require 4 Crawler cocoons, 3 Silver ore and 2 Effervescent water. None can be bought by vendor. You will need to craft both the Twinthread (x2) and quicksynth the Silver Ingot. You can macro craft HQ Twins without food, but it will require a lot of time crafting them and they require crystals.

    And in comparison:

    Spruce Plywood require 3 Spruce Log to be farmed. 4 Aldgoat Horn can be bought by vendor. Macro the Lumber (x1) and quicksynth the Glue (x2). Require half the amount of Crystals and less shards as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    No, there is a lot more work for Silver Brocades.

    Crafting mat stuff
    While true that the Brocade do require more materials, using HQ tomatos is very costly, at least on my server, I use HQ Dark Vinegar and normal Tomatos. There are two big main differences here, firstly the base mats don't need to be HQ, so that saves greatly on cost if you are using HQ tomatos. Secondly, Artisan tools have a smaller loot table AND can give 1 to 3 Mastercrafts, this highly outweighs going the specs route. You also have to consider the time factor, which is really the huge barrier to MC, the amount of time needed to craft the turn-ins. The amount of time placed in making Brocade for up to triple the production of MC far exceeds that of using the relish route. The extras crystals needed to main twinthread plains in comparison to what you get. If anything, expect Crawler Cocoon's to skyrocket in prices shortly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post

    Spruce Plywood require 3 Spruce Log to be farmed. 4 Aldgoat Horn can be bought by vendor. Macro the Lumber (x1) and quicksynth the Glue (x2). Require half the amount of Crystals and less shards as well.
    you can get tons of HQ Lumber by desynthing wedding shoes, beside hard hippo leather and FC III demis
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