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  1. #11
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    Making 50 items for artisan tools was a pain. Since 2.4, I lost the motivation to do it for my remaining classes because it was possible to skip to Supra and all the time getting artisan would be a waste. I welcome the change. It shouldn't take that much grinding for second best.

    I also welcome the demimaterias nerf. It was too ridiculous to get those in the first place, and they've stayed at around 1 million a pop on my server since the day the patch came out. I have stayed out of 4-star because it was too much gil/grinding for too little benefit.

    Sealants have come down in price and will continue to in the long run. It takes weeks from "oh crap, I have to do these stupid ixali quests to get anywhere" to actually getting sealants. Supply will continue to increase. Eventually, demand will taper as the more dedicated/wealthier crafters get geared up, and prices will fall to the point where items made with sealants find demand from a broader base. Other mats purchasable with oaknots will also get dragged down once the value of sealant approaches the value of other mats that can be purchased with an equivalent amount of oaknots. It may take another month or two to reach that point, though.
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    Last edited by giantslayer; 12-09-2014 at 04:54 PM.

  2. #12
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    Akari Legaia
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    The new mastercraft farm will be Artisan Needles. GSM still is the king of desynthesis. That is all folks.
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  3. #13
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    Blaise Destin
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    Quote Originally Posted by xPeAcEx View Post
    Magicked Prism (Wings); new crafted glamor item?
    Magicked Prisms are fireworks more or less that display an image above your head if I recall.
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  4. #14
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    Gogo Gogo
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    The new mastercraft farm will be Artisan Needles. GSM still is the king of desynthesis. That is all folks.
    Blacksmith is the winner. Spruce Plywood is the more material and time effective token. I don't think this patch will have much influence on master demimateria, all it does is bring the other tokens down to a level close to tomato relish-standard.

    I hope that I'm wrong.
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  5. #15
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    Zyra Zephyr
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaiseArath View Post
    Magicked Prisms are fireworks more or less that display an image above your head if I recall.
    Dream shattered

    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    I hope that I'm wrong.
    You're wrong because the artisan main hands have a much smaller loot pool than artisan spectacles; further more they yield 1-3 master craft demi materia. What i am predicting is a surplus of master craft demi's and a shortage of sealant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    The new mastercraft farm will be Artisan Needles. GSM still is the king of desynthesis. That is all folks.
    We think alike, easy hq synth, no need to level another desynth coupled with a great trade rate. In hindsight i should sold off every mastercraft i made and waited for this price drop but at least i'm 4 star in some crafts. YAY for vanity!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    Making 50 items for artisan tools was a pain. Since 2.4, I lost the motivation to do it for my remaining classes because it was possible to skip to Supra and all the . . . SNIP
    Oh boohoo, it's hard? Is Novus or Nexus easy? We all did the grind and so should you. If you can't handle it, then crafting isn't for you. I would have understood changing it to 25 from 50 but not less than 10.

    We already have a surplus of crafters with a deficit of raw materials, especially the lower grade materials that no one wants to go gather. Along with usually a lack of philo mats. Bringing up more 3 star crafters that didn't earn it only makes the fight for mats worse.

    There is next to no motivation for miners and botanists in the game now because everything is becoming desynth related. So unless that issue was addressed, getting 3 star should not have been made a 30minute craft.
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    Last edited by xPeAcEx; 12-09-2014 at 05:41 PM.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    I hope that I'm wrong.
    You are wrong.

    Trust me, you're going to see a huge supply of Mastercraft Demimateria flood the Market Board after this patch hits. Why? Each of the Artisan Tools can be desynth'd into up to 3 Mastercraft Demimateria AT A TIME! This is huge compared to the Artisan Spectacle's paltry ONE per desynth. Not to leave out this important detail: The Artisan Needle only requires a laughable 8 Silver Brocades to acquire...TWO less than Artisan Spectacles! It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out how much this will affect supply on Mastercraft.

    Blacksmith has more methods of obtaining Mastercraft...sure, but that doesn't matter when GSM will still have it easy by desynthing artisan needles.
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  8. #18
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    Gogo Gogo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songi View Post
    You are wrong.

    Trust me, you're going to see a huge supply of Mastercraft Demimateria flood the Market Board after this patch hits. Why? Each of the Artisan Tools can be desynth'd into up to 3 Mastercraft Demimateria AT A TIME! This is huge compared to the Artisan Spectacle's paltry ONE per desynth. Not to leave out this important detail: The Artisan Needle only requires a laughable 8 Silver Brocades to acquire...TWO less than Artisan Spectacles! It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out how much this will affect supply on Mastercraft.

    Blacksmith has more methods of obtaining Mastercraft...sure, but that doesn't matter when GSM will still have it easy by desynthing artisan needles.
    I was taking the amount of materials into consideration. There will be a lot more work for materials (Crystals, Cocoons, Silver Ore, Effervescent Water) and more time (crafting the Twinthread) involved.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by inter View Post
    I was taking the amount of materials into consideration. There will be a lot more work for materials (Crystals, Cocoons, Silver Ore, Effervescent Water) and more time (crafting the Twinthread) involved.
    Basically the same amount of work as Spicy Tomato Relish was. Really nothing changes except the acquisition amounts per attempt will be a lot higher for GSM desynth now. 8 Silver Brocades per tool is a huge buff. Honestly, HQing twinthread can be done quite easily without relying on a Hasty Touch or Basic Touch Rotation if you're a 3* and above crafter with Bouillabaisse. Probably doesn't even require food of such quality but I'm not in game currently to check. All I'm saying is this will bloat the economy with Mastercraft so I hope you all have sold off or hurry up and sell them at a high rate of speed before the value plummets.
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  10. #20
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    Aquilo Lynx
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Oh I am SOOOOOO glad I had the notion to predict the MC market crashing down this coming patch. I dedicated this entire weekend to just crafting all my tomatos into relishes and turning over the MC. Even right before the patch, I shouted selling my MC at just 500k per, when they go for about 700k. I feel "slightly" bad for the guy that bought 15 of them and placing them back up on the MB hoping to make a profit, but that's MMO market for you.

    I don't think I will even bother trying to make more MC's for the time being, I'm just going to watch the market and see how it goes on my server, but yes, the weaver tool seems to be the way to go.

    On another note, anyone else notice a ring now available for sell by an NPC in Uldal? 10 bucks says this can desynth into FC3, giving GSM desynth yet another advantage to being leveled, not that the FC3 market isn't already flooded lol.
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